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    1000 points, combat

    i was just trying to make a non magic army

    noble, gw, armor of caledor
    118

    10 archers
    XXX

    20 spearmen, f.c.
    205

    20 spearmen, f.c.
    205

    6 swordmasters, blade lord
    102

    6 swordmasters, blade lord
    102

    5 silverhelm, full comand
    155

    997 points total

    the tactic is simple, spearmen chatch the charge, so the sword masters can flank in my own turn. the silverhelms go around and make rearcharges. the noble is in one of the spearmen units.

    now i was thinking to drop the archers, and replace the silverhelms with DP and a banner of Elyrion. than i've 53 points left over to use for an eagle or something.
    would this work, or am i getting killed in 3 turns by magic and shooting??

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    I'd get rid of the archers, upgrade the Silver Helms to DP and make the spearmen 18 a piece (17 in the unit with the noble).
    Run the 6X3 and you have a great unit.

    Then where to put the extra points?
    Another eagle?

    I think I'd go with an RBT instead of the eagles. (If I've calculated right that is)


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    now that works
    but i will take the great eagles, becaus i will need marchblokkers, so i can kill the units one by one with two units. and what i want to know is if two single eagles can make a rear charge, because they are both a single unit, but together they have unitstrenght 2

    this is the list now

    noble, great weapon, armor of caledor, gem of courage
    128

    17 spearmen, f.c.
    178

    18 spearmen, f.c.
    187

    6 sword masters, blade lord
    102

    6 sword masters, blade lord
    102

    5 dragon princes, f.c.
    200

    2 great eagles
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    total is 997

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    If you're not using a magic banner then a banner on the DP is easy VP for your opponent, so I'd drop it.

    On the eagles: At least on unit must be at least unit strength 5 to negate ranks, though at the moment I'm not sure wether they still get the flank or rear bonus. Anyways the list is pretty solid, good luck.

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    If I remember the rules correctly, so long as the unit is there at the end of combat, you get the +1 for flank or the +2 for rear charges. However, the unit must be unit strength 5 or above to gain this bonus, or negate the ranks, so your eagles can never negate ranks, nor gain the bonus.

    As for the list, I would drop the standard off of the Dragon Princes, and possibly the Gem of Courage, so that you could get another Dragon Prince to give you a unit of 6 with champion and musician. I have found this unit a devistating flank charger, as well as a nice front charging unit, providing the enemy is weak, (toughness 3, low armour)

    Just my thoughts

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    you two are right, i think i'll drop the standard bearer and the gem of courage (which was only included because i had points left over) and take an extra dragon prince.
    but i'm not sure how to get rid of undead and magic heavy armies, because i've only 2 dispel dice. do you have some solutions for this problem?

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    You shouldn't face any VC army which really magic HEAVY, but I can see the problem. My main tip would simply be to take out the caster(s) with your eagles as soon as possible.
    This list is not built to withstand a VC army, and if you know you're facing one then I'd take a mage with some scrolls instead.

    Other than that I can't think of any great solutions to the problem.

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    hm, i think i have to evade their spells and just hope he throws miscasts, which i always do.

    lets hope for the best.

    thanks

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