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This is a 1k list that I'm going to evolve into a 2250 PTS list. Tell me what you think.
Characters: 268 PTS
Noble - GW + Armor of Caledor
Mage - Lvl 2
Core: 260 PTS
10 x LSG
10 x LSG
10 x Phoenix Guard - Full Command
DD = 3
PD = 4
Total Points = 998
The noble would run with the PG and the mage would hang with one of the LSG units. Thanks for the comments in advance.
Smaller lists are really hard to make solid. You are looking forward to a bigger list and probably using what models you have. Sometimes they just do not work well but it gets your foot in the door.
When I make a smaller list it usually is to get someone a learning gave therefore I am just pulling things out. Please bear with me.
My book is in my car, it is early and cold out. At 1000 points I believe the HE only need one core unit. Hence there is no need for two units of LSG. Therefore put them together or drop one to built up your infantry core.
I understand the appeal of the LSG but for me they just come up a little short. That is just a personnel thing. Archers are just as good and in those small sizes last as long, one combat round.
Good choice with the lion chariot, eagle and RBT.
Now it really helps if you share a little of your game plan with everyone.
That's too bad, because I can field great lower point armies with my Wood Elves.
You do only need one core at 1k. It seems that LSG make a nice addition for the all comers list. I'm painting up my army in blues and greens and so I'm getting a sea feeling and there for a Lothern theme.
If I dropped one unit of the LSG to beef up my infantry, would adding a unit of spearmen (~12) or adding more PG?
Game Plan: I've only ever played Wood Elves, so I don't really know a style of play for HE yet. I'm thinking right now of expanding into an all infantry list (with a couple lion chariots), ~3 RBT, and 2 lvl 2 mages. The goal is to be balanced with not too much emphasis on magic.
I see the LSG protecting the RBT and then the lion chariot and PG can work together to take on the enemy in CC. The LSG can come up and help in CC in the later turns.
Okay now we know your game plan. HE spearman get to attack with an additional rank in combat, 2 on the charge and 3 of defense. These guys or the PG make an anvil. You need a hammer. A small unit of swordmaster 1x7 is great with the chariot on the other side. Of course against other elves the PG might do. Toughest is the key. Sword masters will need protection or using the terrain. Go luck and watch that tree singing.
I think that your list is quite good really,
- the chariot and noble provides the impact in combat to the PG, while the bolt thrower and seagaurd provide some shooting to whittle down what is crossing the board and the eagle can march block allowing you some control over which flank arrives first.
I think that if you were to drop a seagaurd unit you are better off picking up more PG than 12 spears. If you combined the 2 seagaurd you would be better off taking 24 spearmen. As is however I think that the list is good and covers all your bases.
If you do drop the seagaurd considet replacing them with 5 shadow warriors and 2 Phoenix Gaurd + skeinsliver or 3PG.
I played a game Sunday with this list and thought y'all would like to know how I did. It was against Beastmen and I massacred them! He had 4 chariots and 2 mages along with two herds and 2 units of warhounds.
The bolt thrower with LSG were able to take out all but one chariot by time CC came along. One unit of LSG provided some nice support for the PG and Lion chariot as well. In addition the one mage was able to stop most everything he through at me.
The list seemed very shooty after my very mobile Wood Elves!
Thanks for the update and congratulations on a successful first outing with your Elves.
It is a very shooty army, I think.