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Archmage, Level 4, Seerstaff and x2 Dispell Scrolls
Noble with Blade of Sea Gold, Heavy Armor and Shield (1)
Noble with Sword of Battle and Armor of Caledor (2)
Mage, Level 2, Annulian Crystal
x20 Spearmen, Full Command (Noble 2 Here)
x20 Spearmen, Full Command (Noble 1 here)
x20 Phoenix Guard (Archmage here)
10 Sword Masters (Mage here)
1 Great Eagle
This is my list, and the general idea is that they all (except for the RBTs, which will shoot form a hill, and the Eagle, which will March Block) stay within charge range of each other and so nothing can charge without having a nasty unit in its flank. What do you think?
Last edited by tyland13; June 12th, 2010 at 15:04.
I like it and I like your plan. The only thing I would change about your unit comp. is I would combine the phoenixgaurd to make it 20. The only down side to the PG is that they don't have the destructive power of the sword masters/ white lions so the depend more on static CR which means in part: numbers. (the PG are my favorite unit in the whole army) they just need a little extra.
Your tatic should work really well. Flexibility is a huge advantage to have and your line should be good at it.
I don't particularly like the build of your nobles. Noble  could really use a shielld to help him stay alive longer. If he enters a challenge and fails to kill his opponent, then the heavy armor won't really protect him but so much. For just a few more points, you'll have a better shot. I haven't added up the total points, so I don't know if you can squeeze it, but its worth it.
Noble  is completely jacked though. He has NO ARMOR. The white sword is a two handed weapon, which means you can't use the shield at the same time. Once in combat, he has zero armor save. No protection at all. The shield would only be good against shooting attacks and magic, which would all go to the unit anyway.
I personally am not fond of the tactic you wish to employ, but if it works for you, go for it. I'd be too afraid that the charged unit would break first round, and then the enemy would pass right through my line, rather then getting caught by it. But if you're after having them hold, then sticking it to them with the flankers, then your Nobles should definitly have more of a defensive build. This will allow them to stay alive, vs giving 2+ combat res to your opponent, potentially breaking your spears. Just my two cents....
I think that this will be how MSU runs in 8th ed, but it would be a unit of 10 Swordmasters (2 ranks to remove flanks is rumoured).To prevent this whichever unit is initially charged must flee as a charge response. Turn 1 advance 8" then your flee should both get you away and give you time to rally and counter charge to the front.I'd be too afraid that the charged unit would break first round, and then the enemy would pass right through my line, rather then getting caught by it.
The only time I wouldn't flee would be against cavalry, whose failed charge would leave them taking a frontal charge, again something we want to avoid.
My deployment would be
PG SP SM SP PG
FinchT is right about the Whitesword bearer, he needs some Dragon Armour, and can go without the Enchanted Shield. It would also be cool to have some chariots in reserve to counter-charge the front for the first round of combat, but your points don't allow for that.
Thanks, I've changed that noble, now he has a 2+ and the other noble has a 4+. I'm going to play test this list with different deployments and different unit sizes, but this is the base.
Last edited by tyland13; June 12th, 2010 at 15:06.