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Hey guys, I'm relatively new to the game. I bought into 40k back in September and Fantasy in October. My play group, however, is very competitive in most of the stuff we play so coming up with good army lists is key. I heard most tournaments in 8th ed. are running at 2400 points to easily make the 25% at 600. So any help would be awesome:
Teclis with Lore of Life
(with 19 Sea Guard)
BSB, Lance, Dragon Armor, Barded Steed, Shield and a Banner of Sorcery
(with 5 Dragon Princes)
Mage with High Magic
Level 2, Annulian Crystal
(with 9 White Lions)
19 Sea Guard
FC and Shields
20 Sea Guard
FC and Shields
12 Sword Masters
9 White Lions
5 Dragon Princes
Repeater Bolt Thrower
Repeater Bolt Thrower
Now I also heard that some tournaments don't allow named characters for how powerful they are. If this is the case I'll replace Teclis with:
Level 4, Book of Hoeth
5 Ellyrian Reavers
and add a Protection Talisman to my Level 2 Mage
Thanks for reading, any help would be awesome.
Last edited by Incompl_te; December 4th, 2010 at 15:09.
Hey, thanks for the suggestions.
I changed my list a bit. I've decided to drop Teclis and just run my "Non-Named" list. So I'm rockin' a level 4 mage with a book instead. I swapped my BSB to be on foot with a Helm of Fortune and a Guardian Phoenix then put him with my 19 Sea Guard. My thought process with the musicians in the Archer squads was to easy get them turned around if my opponent goes out of my front arc, which has happened to me in a few games. I suited up my 19 Sea Guard unit with a War Banner, and in the one game I've played with it so far, it's swayed a combat res. I beefed up my Swordmasters to 14 and stuck a banner of Swiftness on them, which has helped more than I expected. I dropped the Dragon Princes and put in 11 Phoenix Guard with a BoS and BOY did it make a difference. Very happy with the Phoenix Guard change, so definitely thanks for that suggestion. I threw my level 4 Mage in their group for some protection. I kept the 9 White Lions, it was hard to find points to boost them up but I threw my level 2 Mage in with them and gave them an Arcane Protection banner. Dropped my Reavers completely and, of course, I kept my Repeaters in. Thanks for the warm welcome, and especially the suggestions.
No problem, glad I could help. I'm surprised the others haven't jumped in to help you as well.
Remember- your bows aren't "move or fire", so if you need to wheel or reform during your movement phase, you can still get away with it without your Musician in the regiment.
Phoenix Guard are beasts. You might find that you need to switch those 9 White Lions over to PGs to keep the unit's survivability up.
With the shooting that you have coming from 2 RBTs and the regiments of LSG, you may want to consider knocking out the archers altogether. Either swap them over to make more Core troops, or drop them and beef up your Specials (PG and WLs). If I remember, you're running 125pts for each of those archer regiments. You could probably split one of them down into 5 LSG for each of your regiments, and then use the other 10 to add on a few more White Lions.
Those are just extra suggestions. You'll find that a lot of times, LO members get stuck on "what works" and then they give those suggestions out to everyone. What works for me, may not work for you. I actually run a Shadow-Warriors list myself, and it works for me. Try a few games against different opponents and different types of armies, and eventually you'll figure out what you like in the army and what you can let go. "Trimming the fat" in your lists is what makes it unique, and what takes you from a good player, to a great one.
"What works for me, may not work for you. I actually run a Shadow-Warriors list myself, and it works for me. Try a few games against different opponents and different types of armies, and eventually you'll figure out what you like in the army and what you can let go. "Trimming the fat" in your lists is what makes it unique, and what takes you from a good player, to a great one."
Best advice.. ever.
Fantasy: High Elves 7000pts / Warriors of Chaos 6000pts. 40k: Eldar 5000pts / Chaos Marines 2500pts.