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i've been playing with a 1k list for quite a while and now i want to build it up to 2000 points.
i've already moved it to 1500 pts but now i have some dilemmas.....see if you can help
here's the list so far
1 archmage lvl 4 Book of hoeth
1 noble BSB with armour of caledor and guardian phoenix and GW
28 LSG with banner and musician
11 archers with musician
20 Pguard with full command
18 WHite lions with captain and musician
1 tiranoc chariot
so far i have already spent 1836 pts, which leaves me with 164 pts to spend. I tend to see how my army would look in a 6' by 4´table and right now im seeing 3 blocks of infantry (not counting archers) with 3 small support units. So, with that in mind, i guess i could spend the rest on support units that could improve my manoeuvrability...or not. what do you guys think?
some options i've considered
-add another mage or another commander (probably a guy with reaver bow and great weapon to pick monsters, warmachines or small units with his s5 bow)
-add some shadow warriors - in this case i would to ask you something...whats better in your opinion? a 5 or 6 man unit or eagles? or a mix? i could remove 1 eagle and include a small unit no? i really want to have something that i can use to hunt warmachines or to protect, at least in a certain degree, my own flanks and rear. have you tried including a commander with shadow armour in a shadow warrior unit?
- add another tiranoc chariot or a lion chariot
- add a silver helms units
- add 1 rbt
- add a mix of the above and improve my units with magic banners and with special items in champions...what do you recommend? i saw an item that gives +6 ward save against warmachines for 5 pts...i think it's really useful no?
thanks in advance
I quite like this list. You nailed it on the characters, those are some of (maybe "the"?) best setups our armybook can offer, IMO.
Core: go for 29 LSG with shields and full command, backed by 10 naked Archers. Makes just 10 points more than your core requirements if my maths are correct, which leaves more room for other goodies!
Basicly I think you should invest more on spear-armed Elves than on bowmen. 29 LSG allow you to run a 6x5 formation (including character. Btw who are you planning on deploying with these guys? I'd suggest the Archmage.), and that odd Archer+Musician didn't make sense to me.
Specials: fine. I think I'd drop 3 PG (have a 18-man regiment with the BSB deployed on three ranks) to save a couple points to invest in rares.
Rares: add 2 Bolt Throwers! With the 164 leftover points + dropped PG you can afford those, and I really recommend not to leave home without Eagle Claws. I have to admit that they didn't do so good in my last few games, but I find them reassuring to have nontheless.
Hope it helps,
As much as it pains me to say it, RBTs just don't seem to do it with only 2 wounds and everyone and their dog able to cause them, however I agree on the core units.
I'd add a second Mage in myself, make him L2, get him the annulian crystal if you can, and with the Lore of Shadow he'd go nicely with the Life toting archmage.
They do have only 2 wounds, but I think that many players would rather spending efforts (cavalry flank charges, magic, shooting, more magic and shooting) against our elites rather than going after machines. After all, who would you shoot between SM and RBTs?
That's what I'd do against me anyways. I agree that RBTs have been nerfed a bit in this edition, but that's not enough for me not to take them.
thanks for the replies!
indeed, i've been asking in my group about rbt's and i still have some doubts about their uselfulness in 8th.
guess i have to try a list with them at 2k points!
Indeed trying might be he very best course of action. Let us know!
RBT is a must. Do whatever you have to to to get at least 1. While they may have lost one wound with the new edition, they still remain to be one of the best means of taking out big terrible beasties. S6 arrow might not get the job done as FAST as a group of lions, but its safer. Or if the enemy has a horde formation, start popping the ranks/attacks right off with the big arrow if they're deep enough, or with the multi shot. The multi shot option really makes it worth it in my mind. Those are S4 arrows flying around, with the accuracy of the elves. Its great for getting those 1-3 kills typically needed to break a rank. And since our models are pretty expensive by comparison, its not uncommon to be out numbered and outranked. anything to take away that steadfast is worth it.