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Just drafted up a 2500pt list for the coming ETC tourney at my LGS, was hoping you all could give some critique on the list.
Archmage (Shadow, Life, or Metal)
Talisman of Saphery
Barded Elven Steed
Vambraces of Defense
Battle Standard Bearer
Barded Elven Steed
Helm of Fortune
40 Spear Elves
19 Pheonix Guard (Archmage here)
Banner of Sorcery
12 Sword Masters
Banner of Eternal Flame
8 Dragon Princes (Prince and Bsb here)
Amulet of Light
Standard of Balance
Thanks in advanced for any suggestions
Last edited by CultofUlric; May 8th, 2012 at 14:27.
Its a different list to what I would normally write or play with.
The only thought that I really had was to wonder if you could do the Prince as a Noble and add in a L1 mage with beasts to cast Wyssan's Wildform on the Dragon Princes if they get bogged in protracted combat.
Are the spears going to be super deep 5x8 or relatively wide 8x5, personally I think I would go with superdeep let the SM and Dragon princes do the killing the Spears can just break steadfast. If you are going wide then why add in 10 more for a horde. It will cost you 8 archers but you still have a unit of 14.
I think I would go with life in this list, I would also be tempted to put the AM in the spears instead of the PG, or maybe even the SM so that the regen on his own unit is useful. Single dice cast at the end of the phase got to be worth a shot right, its not like there is much that will kill him. I guess in the Spears he is vulnerable to any anti horde magic they draw out.
Good luck, hope it works out for you.
I may be wrong but doesn't the standard of balance make both you and you're opponent ITP? Doesn't that mean your opponent can't run away? If so, that's probably not the best banner. maybe the Razor standard, so they aren't as bad in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
PS Allonaire am I right on ITP, or is that Unbreakable?
ItP is fear frenzy hatred etc, you are thinking of unbreakable. Its a great banner vs Dark Elves.
With the actual list I will not comment much as by my calculations you're nearly 70 pts over. I would do what Allonairre suggested and put the AM in with the Swordmasters. His magic gear allows him to be safe in there whilst adding some nice buff.
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On the editing I dropped 2 DP and 2 SM for the two eagles, while I dislike them their uses are without question. Also 1 PG was pulled from the list for the skeinsliver, I'm wondering if this is even worth it.
Also if I'm to not bunker the AM with the PG would I be better off going for one of the other Elites? Like white Lions?
Last edited by CultofUlric; May 8th, 2012 at 14:30.
That is up to you, PG are in the unique position in the HE army of being survivable through reputation. People see them as being able to take a tonne of damage and come out kicking. They are the best at survival but most often they live through battles because people elect to direct their fire elsewhere, the psychological effect is better protection than the actual ward save itself, the same is true of the Lion Cloaks.
19 WL would be effective as well though, really is up to you. As I think about this given your current mage build I would say it is better to take 19 WL as an escort for the AM, their stubborn makes them very tough to shift and again alright in combat and you can give them a ward when it comes to combat anyway. The Lion cloaks should deter much of the shooting as well, I would feel safer with the mage in WL than in SM as the SM may blow themselves up in combat and will be a priority target for shooting. So use Toughness buff on the SM and rely on lion cloaks + regen for WL, then in combat buff whats needed.
Personally I think 12 White Lions work better than 12 Sword Masters. The stubborn combined with Lion Cloaks really come into their own on smaller units. Thats before you even get to the extra point of St and Armour modifier.
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If you keep the prince, you might as well give him dragon armor. Also archers are almost worthless, so a horde of spearmen would be a better option with the points. It's a very unusual list but it looks interesting and worth trying