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Well first of all, I'm new to warhammer fantasy.
I have experience playing Dark Eldar in 40k.
I just need your advice to improve my list to improve it for a tourney, as far as i know it's full of really cheesy players so it wouldn't be a problem to maximize it. :cool:
Commander w/ Great weapon, heavy armour, Radiant Gem of Hoeth (Heavens), Pure of Heart 123 pt
17+1 Swordmasters w/ Standard (banner of sorcery), musician, champion (with blessed tome) 352 pt
4+1 First Silver Helms w/ Heavy armour, shield, standard (war banner), musician, champion 170 pt
4 +1 Silver Helms w/ Heavy armour, shield, standard, musician, champion 150 pt
2 Repeater bolt thrower 200 pt
Mage w/ Level 2 (Heavens), seer, channeler, silver wand 180 pt
Mage w/ Level 2 (High), jewel of the dusk, ring of fury 175 pt
5 shadow warriors 75 pt
5 shadow warriors 75 pt
Well the idea is hammer the enemy with magic and counter attack with cavalry, shadow warriors and swordmasters.
I would be pleased to read your opinions
Last edited by Maleficarum; June 21st, 2005 at 23:59.
Hey, first off isn't tourny at 2000 points, but then again I might be wrong.
There are a few flaws with this list:
First the swordmasters are your only foot unit and they are not ment for taking the field alone. Ether swap them for dragon princes or add spear men. Swordsmasters are not a regiment unit so to speak but an elite supporting unit.
Umm, the radiant gem of hoeth isn't really that great esp if your taking the lore of heavens.
For hero level characters HEs are better at taking a magic sword and a shield as they lack protection when using a GW.
RBTS rock :lol:
Just get more core units (silver helms or spearmen) and you're golden
And just to tell you HE and dark eldar are very differnt armies.
"Heresy is like a garden weed, it won't stop feeding until you... BURN THE WHOLE DAMN GARDEN WITH A FLAMER, BURN IT, BURN IT TO HELL!!!!!" "Is there a wittle puppy in the garden? ITS A DAEMON! BURN IT!"
You're also short by one core choice, so the list is illegal as it is now.
Other than that, not bad, although with either swordmasters or spearmen your cavalry will be restricted to flanking actions, so remove the champion and the standards from both of those units and add another silver helm to each unit. Also, increase the unit of swordmasters / spears to a minimum of 20 models, 25 would be better.
The iron crowned is getting closer,
Swings his hammer down on him,
Like a thunderstorm he's crushing,
Down the Noldor's proudest king.
Under my foot, so hopeless it seems.
You've troubled my day, now feel the pain.
- Blind Guardian
Ok, either make the swordmasters a proper size unit, big enough to take on anything in the game, or just have a unit of 10, and let them support a big fat unit of spearmen or, more helpfully archers. take a small unit of archers (about 10 or 12 with no need for a command) and let them get charged (stand and shoot.) they will flee from being mashed in combat but if you place your unit of spearmen close behind them with the swordmaster on their flank you have spearmen fighting in 3 ranks and swordmasters charging in the flank.
Second, play to the Elves strengths. We excel at magic so get a level 4 mage in there backed up by 2 level 2,s. either give her a veriaty of items such as silver wand, seer and channler or if you really need to get your spells off take the book or Hoeth (its 100 points, but once you have taken it you will never look back!) Silver helms are not good cavelry in the grand scheme of the warhammer world, and only work if charging and with characters in the front rank, points better spent of Reaver and some archers.
Any help? i hope so,
Grimbog Elf Ater: he's got 2 silverhelms units, and that's all the core units needed at 1500 points
willadams: at 1500points he can not use an archmage
here's my list
1 mage: ring of fury and Jewel of Dusk
1 mage: Seer and Dispell Scroll or Seer and Channeler and Magic wand
1 comander: Lion guard honor. shield and great weapon. 3+AS if fighting with shield. 5+AS if fighting with GW. in the SW unit
19swordmasters + Lion Standard (champion and Std)
8 Silver Helms + Ellyrion Banner (champion and Std)
5 Silver Helms (no champ, std or music)
5 Ellyrian Reavers with spear and bow
2 tiranoc chariots
normally i do 3 groups:
8 silver helms + 5 silver helms
swordmasters + chariot
Reavers + chariot
this list allows me to have 2 strong units, with a secondary unit with strong charge with them. The Reavers + chariot gain the flank and take out war machines and solitare mages
Tharion - i have to ask you to stop dragging up these old topics, if you check the last post date of three army lists I have seen you reply to you will see that they are in fact last replyed to in July.
Do not drag up threads to increase your post count, it is safe to say that these games have been and gone. Advice to/for them is now quite redundant.