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So, i've started to realise unless you want to take a star/moon dragon, that there isnt much a prince can do, that a noble cant do almost as easily, and cheaper. So I was wondering how you guys fielded your nobles, on foot and mounted, in say, a 1500-2000 point scenario, based on being a combatant.
I was thinking a noble with armor of the gods and a great weapon would be a nice little brute. 3+ save, str 7, and maybe the gem of courage or Talisman of loec, still leaving him pretty cheapish at 138 points total.
As for mounted, I suppose barded steed, heavy armor,star lance and enchanted shield?
Leaves him with a great lance, 1+ save, and hes just about 155 points? Only thing that I don't like, which I never like with mounted heros, is after the charge, if they dont break, you are stuck with str 4 attacks.
What do you guys think? What does everyone use?
Well a great starting point for a cheap noble would just be a noble on a barded steed with heavy/dragon armour, shield and a lance. Without even touching your magic item allowance you've already got S6 on the charge and a 2+ save for less than 120pts. Then if you have a few points to improve him then, like you suggested, the enchanted shield is a good cheap upgrade or if you've got a few more points then something like the helm of fortune or dragonscale shield can make him really annoying and hard to kill for a cheap (for elves anyway) character.
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I used to give my Comman... sorry, Noble, a barded steed, lance, heavy armour and a Dragonscale Shield and a Ring of Fury in the previous edition, and he usually worked rather well. The points increase of the Ring now though means I'll have to do something else... at first glance through the army book I would give him a Dragonhorn instead, but I'm not sure yet.
I'm going to equip mine with a great weapon and armour of cal. I'll also give him talisman of loec just in case my opponent's lord challenges him. That should be just under 130pts, so he is still pretty cheap.
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I was composing my new army list today, in an attempt to make a worthy army without buying any new models, and my new Noble looks like this:
Noble: Barded Steed, Heavy Armour, Great Weapon, Helm of Fortune = 138
He doesn't have the zappy power of my old one (although it was invariably dispelled anyway), but he is cheaper. He'll go along with one of my 5-man units of Dragon Princes (previously SHs), and striking with an extra attack at the same strength as the DPs mean they should make mincemeat of whatever they charge... assuming they're supported in the flank/rear of course.
A mounted great weapo only gives +1 str right? Couldnt you give him the sword of might for, what, 9 10 points more then a great weapon, then you can also give him a shield to make his save better, now I know this increases his points, but the over effectivness of him seems to be worth it.
plus if you use the dragon mage, he'll need the sword of might
this is probably what I'll use with 2 mages
168 BSB Noble Grt Wpn, Armor of Caledor, Guardian Phoenix
152 Noble Barded Pony Sword of Might HvyA, Shld, Tem’s Gaunlets (6+AS5+Wd)
In regards to this, I have a question:
Considering the Elves' low numbers, even moreso now than before, is it advisable to create viciously powerful characters and resigning one's self to being outnumbered; or is it better to keep the characters cheap and cheerful and put the remaining points into trying to mitigate the numerical handicap the Elves suffer from?
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