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Hey all, i've been meandering through the army book, and I really like the look of a Prince riding a Great Eagle, armed with the Bow of the Seafarer, and the Ring of Fury, just sounds awesome to me.
Has anyone got any tips on making such a conversion (and preferably at a low cost...)?
I have no means of buying online,which puts buying the actual great eagle in difficulty, so I was looking at the wood elf Warhawk model. Its not too much smaller, its cheaper, and the hawk looks kickass. I haven't seen the model outside its blister pack however, so can't really judge if it would look a tad silly or not? (and a GW guy told me they're nicknamed "the budgie").
As for the Lord himself, would you think sat straddling as if it were a horse would look better or worse than riding surfboard syle? Both are options as I can use silver helm plastics for a riding version (like the one seen in the army book, top right of page 85). For the surfing version i could use the metal noble with bow, but again that ramps the cost up a notch.
Hawks are a significant amount smaller than eagles, I wouldn't use one... I think there is a Wood Elf eagle rider kit out now, might be worth looking at that. The rider could be converted or used for something else. Otherwise you may have to look at trying to find a way to buy online, remember you can pay GW direct by cheque or money orders as well.
For my eagle rider I had him sitting down, I bought the old mounted HE prince with sword and shield and gave him a hand swap. Sit them in front of the wings, pretty much on the neck. The hardest part is making sure they aren't too far forward on the eagle, I had to saw the robes off the back of my model's legs and round it off (armour) to make it fit properly. I imagine you would have to do the same with silver helm legs.
personally, the modelling aspect usually takes a bit of priority over the gaming aspect these days. You can always use the warhawk as a great eagle, but mounting someone on him will be difficult unless you use a warmaster model (they have a small hero on griffon model) If I was really dedicated to the idea (had playtested it and liked it) I would get a GAMEZONE great eagle or wind rider model
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They look tons better and are big enough to convert a prince/noble on the top. Any online store is going to have a mailing address as well.
You could try the newer WE warhawk models as well, they are a bit bigger (still small imo) but could easily be painted and green-stuffed to make a decent great eagle.
I do worry about your set up though. Just about anything and everything will be able to shoot that sucker down unless you play him super safe. I would get him some armor and a great weapon just incase, because at some point, the bird will die and he'll be on foot.
A freind has got an older great eagle which I can buy cheaply from him, the one on the left here: Games Workshop Online Store — Classic Great Eagle (1 random figure)
As far as I can see from pics in old white dwarfs etc, its smaller than the current eagle, but its larger than the hawks at least. What do you reckon? My mate says its about 3.5 inches wing to wing.
Another option is to get the bretonian Pegasus Knight (as a counts-as great eagle mount)
Last edited by KingBurriss; June 29th, 2008 at 20:45.
These ones are terrible - better off buying Gwahir for Lord of The Rings...
I have the old High Elf Eagle from days of Yore (the "Marauder Miniatures" eagle) alternative is to use a pegasus as a counts-as model (as HE can't take pegasii) - I have three of them that I have to use as counts-as...
Well,you may have seen this picture of but in the army groupshot of all the heroes in the HE armybook,he is in the back.It is a direct order eagle and a commander boxed set.It looks easy to do,all you have to do is trim the the saddle legs to fit on the eagle.If you haven't i suggest you take a look at it,it is probably what you are thinking,low cost too.
As for buying online, most of the online stores can accept cheques, postal orders etc as well...
Interesting. I was thinking about the same conversion on my way to work this morning.
In the old days, I used Imrik (from the first dragon set) to ride a HE great eagle, just by strapping him with a rubber band. It looked ok, if you forgot about physics, as the eagle was way too small to carry a character like this.
This time I would like to make it right. I think the proper great eagle is the way to go.
I am just not sure what character with a bow would fit the best. I think I might look through some mounted wood elves or something. Surfing is not an option, it just looks plane stupid.
Another question is: is it really worth the troubles? A character like this wouldn't be able to do much and he would die so easyly...
Yeah, I think i'll be asking a mate to order the proper great eagle for me, and basically copying the conversion seen in the book.
And I think it could be a very effective unit, basically a highly mobile bolt thrower, with some good combat punch as well if you give him a great weapon. I likely won't be using the ring of fury though, that gives me some points to bump up his survivability.
If you want advice on setup, I wouldn't go for a prince on eagle. In 2k he would be your general, and you don't want your general that vulnerable, and in 3k its a fair few points and an important lord choice. Take a Noble on eagle with lance, reaver bow, heavy/dragon armour, enchanted shield. This is the cheaper version, and still fairly effective for his tasks. He will be doing only a touch less than the lord (not counting RoF which could go on another character) and costs a lot less plus doesn't use your lord slot. If you do decide to go with a prince, I'd probably give him a great weapon. Yes, it reduces your strength while mounted but that thing is going to be a fire magnet, so if the eagle is killed from under him then he is still going to be effective for a few kills worth of combat res if you charge him in with a unit.