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ok why use silver helms simple enough answer ellryon revers and dragon princess are to expensive though im considering converting some the thing is I bought the battalion and army box and now have 16 silver helms doing nothing I'm now using infantry only ( which isn't that bad with some shadow warriors but anyway back to the topic)
They just seem to expensive
So what exactly is it you're asking?
I can barely make head or tail of your post.
He wants to know if there are any applications for the current silver helms. Or if he should just convert them to DPs.
Here's the thing: DPs are the best all rounders, without a doubt. They generally give the highest returns for the lowest cost. However, I have found Silvers to be quite good in some spots.
1) low points: if you need cavalry, sometimes you have to question whether you really need to be immune to fire or get 2 attacks each. Command is also more expensive in a DP unit.
2) Combat Resolution: This is just for comparison purposes. For a few points more than a 6man unit of Dragon Princes, you can get 10 silver helms. Formed into two ranks, and with a US of 20, you're looking generating more "static" CR. That's points without kills. I did a little mathhammer against a T4 opponent, and rounded up, but the 6 DPs will only average 1or 2 more kills than the Silvers anyways. The trouble is, if you lose 3 DPs, the enemy gets 1/2 points. If you lose 1 DP, you are down 2 attacks. You have to lose 5 silvers before you begin to really feel it. The trick is simple: 6DPs against units that you know you can take down, because they're cheaper. But against an army like VC or Dwarves, it's usually Silver Helms all the way. If you can clear about 26 points/unit in your army, you might want to consider keeping the silvers. Take a look at my math below:
10 Silvers + standardbearer + warbanner = 246pts
~~rank + outnumber + standard + warbanner + 2 wounds = 6CR (4 static)
6 Dragon Princes + standard bearer + warbanner = 220pts
~~standard + warbanner + 3 wounds = 5CR (2 static)
We went through a thread in quite some depth around this - searchy is your friend...
I do not see "exspense" being an issue, due to the fact all HE models are more exspensive than their counterparts in other armies.
It is really hard for me to use the Silver Helms now. They were great in the last edition, and many HE players sported a calvary force.
Besides the fact I am bugged by spending extra points for shields, they cannot carry any magic items despited the fact they were moved back into "special".
I do not think GW put much effort into this choice, and could live without them taking magic items if they were still "core".
Dragon Princes make a nice "mess", and there is just no end of "the hurt" a unit ( or two ) of Reavers can do.
I can live without the Silver Helms, but it is a shame to ignore such nice looking models.
Expense is absolutely an issue! Yes, our units do cost more than their counterparts, but that's what makes it so important. Each point we spend is probably a point too much, so we as Elf players have to be very strict.
If I take SHs over DPs, I might lose 2 scrolls for magic defense, the Ring of Fury for magic offense, nearly 3 elite infantry, almost an eagle, a level on a mage, and the list goes on.
What's worth more to you? One of those items, or the power curve from a DP unit to a larger SH unit? Or in reverse, 6 "cheap" SHs vs. 6 DPs. That's another 30-40pts down the tubes, for a minor power curve.
I try to get my elf lists as close to the maximum allowed points limit as practicaly possible. Sometimes I get ugly numbers that are nearly 20pts shy, but i try to fill every gap and nich possible, because when you're already paying too much/model, you don't want to be at a points disadvantage from the very beginning.