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While trying to come up with a decent army list for small point games, I started drooling with an idea. Dragon Princes are obviously too expensive (IMHO) to use in 500- 1000 p. but Silver Helms get the same save, strength and movement, so if you're after a fast unit to negate rank/rear bonus these guys would likely do the job without getting shot to death.
I don't see too many Silver Helms out these days, but I would like to hear YOUR oppinions on them. Are they really so bad compared to DPs?
5000p. High Elves
well it's quite simple... until you have 10 silverhelms a unit of DP's is better (for the same amount of points)
but in small point games (especcially under 1000) /silver helms will do fine, because the opponent wont be able to field anything much tougher.
I think that the main advantage of the silverhelms is the unit strength. it's quite easy to outnumber small units (up to US12) in small point battles, but if you field a full unit of 10, you have a us20 block with a 2+AS
in 500-1000 point battles i suggest a unit of 6-8 so you have maximum front for minimum points. just use the unit to harras the enemy.. don't be afraid to do some tactical fleeeing to keep his expensive units chasing you. next to the SH you might want a nice block of PG, Spears, or LSG to give you a nice and steady center of your army
ow and it is really fun to see your opponnents face if you put a dragon mage in your army just a suggestion
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There are several threads on Silver Helms and their (lack of) uses...
Silver Helms are really a second rate cavalry squadron, and bang for buck is better out of a Dragon Princes unit. Silver Helms really would benefit if they could drop their barding becoming 3+ AS and 9" move, or if they had fast cavalry rules, or had a free High Helm upgrade etc, but as it stands they aren't worth writing home about...
Like kithre said, this has been discussed quite a lot. It's not that Silver Helms are bad; they're really a mediocre choice I suppose. It's that Dragon Princes are so much better for a relatively small points increase. That, plus the fact that they're both competing over the army's already crowded special slots means that Silver Helms really are a second rate choice. But, if you don't want to spend the extra X points per model to make them DPs, Silver Helms are still decent. Just don't expect them to win too many combats on their own.
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I was thinking specifically in games of 1000 or even 500 points where you won't be wasting any special slots (I think) and where the cost of DPs is too great to fit in other thinks you'd like.
So if they are mediocre, they're worth considering?
5000p. High Elves
Dunno - even at small pints, a unit of 5 DPs is still better than 6 SH, as the cost differential is slightly more than 30%, BUT the DPs are much better in terms of combat res due to their much larger numebr of attacks...
The only truly good way to run SilverHelms is to run them in larger regiments. For 26pts MORE than a 6man DP regiment, you can buy 10SHs and truly rampage through the enemy, by way of gaining a rank, outnumber, banner, and possibly even a warbanner on top of your normal kills.
I suggest perhaps looking >>HERE<< (Another Tactica DRAFT. Cavalry oriented lists), it's a tactica that I wrote a while ago concerning all things cavalry. Although it is meant to run armies which are based around cavalry, it also gives a lot of insight into each cavalry and chariot regiment and each core and rare choice and how they all affect one another on the battlefield, as well as providing tactics to consider basing your force around. It's been picked up as part of the general High Elf tactica at the top of the section page as well.
They are no longer core so can no longer take a magic banner without the addition of a BSB. I think this was the biggest oversight, any SH unit should be allowed a 25pt magic banner, they used to be able to take one as core anyway so why not as special?
GRR, shouldn't get myself started like that.
As everyone already pointed out. throwing in 7 more points to get a whole extra attack is too good to pass.
However, against low str armies like Woodelves, the +2AS does wonders to neutralize shooters. So in that special case where you want to overload archery based regiments with slightly cheaper cavalry with an awesome AS.. then SH's might be a choice to be considered..
I'd just go with the DP's any day of the week.