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Hi all, now i realize that alot of people collect and play warhammer with absolutely no interest in history or background, but fluff is what this thread is all about.Do you have some story as to how your army came to be? what they are trying to achieve? where they originated from?If so, then let us know.
Collection wise i own three Batt box sets with some non GW elfs for leaders. it is an island garason force/chain of towns north of Ulthuan, so its gonna have more spears and archers and less superpowered magic items. when i can play i field an army, not monsterhammer.....now the high lady is trying to get a dragon mage to move to the islandi use the silver helms like the fluff and i have shadow warriors(close to the DE lands) as scoutsright now im trying to make some fluffy elite unit that uses the rules for one of the three main (SM/PG/WL) failing that i can just say that its a small detachment for the mainlands, lol.
Nice fluff Aleis. I guess my army is an excuse to play monsterhammer, but it also stems from the fact that until the recent armybook, I didn't own any elven infantry...
Straight Caledor army. Princes on Dragons occasionally, as well as the occasional D.Mage. I field several units of DPs, and a few large units of "up and coming" nobles in the form of Silver Helms. I field 2 RBTs, which would in reality be great for defending mountain passes, and then a regiment or two of "house guard" archers, or LSG if I'm feeling a bit crazy. I use lots of mages, and I prefer to stick to the Lore of Fire for as many of them as is prudent. If Teclis enters the field, he is representative of the first great mage of the High Elves: Caledor I. Likewise, Tyrion represents Aenarion on horseback if need be, and I can still rebuild Prince Imrik as a lord on a dragon.
The army color scheme is quite similar to the standard white/blue, but with a cream colored robe and an very dark aqua/teal color for their sleeves. I run the "lacquered" armor style, with helmets being painted the same dark aqua, and my dragon princes are painted nearly entirely aqua with details and trim picked out in gold. I use lots of black washes in my painting to darken up the colors without having to add bright highlights- it gives the army a very ancient, smoky feeling. The brightest color is Goblin Green, which is used to paint the runes on their shields, and to pick out the plumes on my DPs.
All of my mages have red hair and make the only use of crimson in the whole army. The mages are also my only conversions, using bits farmed from the Dragon Mage frame to give each of them something related to fire or dragons.
The bases are done with fine gravel and clumps of grass, as though I am still fighting in high mountain valleys.
and that is a fluffy way to do monsterhammer, it seems to me that that kind of froce would do better as an army vs army preformed mission, like vs deamons or legendary armies; am I right?
Your post was about as useful as a chocolate fireguard in a diabetic's house without a chimney!--realitycheque
Thank you for contributing to my thread/s, you are doing a great service in making the world a fluffier place, rep for you both.
Usually, Teclis, Tyrion, and the Prince on a Star Dragon are absent from the army. It's frequently just mages and cavalry, backed with RBTs and archers. In a legendary battle, I would certainly put both Twins into the force, and run the prince, and whatever other nastiness I could pull from the list. Just the Twins alone however runs over 1000pts and costs 2 Lord choices. I have played 4k games though where I ran the whole family together.
I didn't set out to run a Monsterhammer army. I had always played my Elves with a lot of cavalry because it was a way to net victories, and pretty much the only way to net victories. With only 1 army, and limited funds, I didn't waste cash on regiments that wouldn't let me enjoy the occasional victory. Later, I gained a few armies, built a terrible Empire army based on a theme, built a mediocre Warriors of Chaos army based on a theme, and built a rather standard Vampire Counts army based upon a theme. My Elves fell to the back of the shelf. When the new book came out, I looked at it, and realized that the only way to play without spending another $300 on Swordmasters, Phoenix Guard, and White Lions, was to revamp my Cavalry army. I went out, spent $100 on two boxes of Dragon Princes, bought the new dragon because I liked the model, and went from there.
The army definitely doesn't win all the time, and if I dropped the Silver Helms for more Dragon Princes, or dropped my D.Mage for 2 regular Lvl2s, I would have a much nastier force. Some people like fluff, and some people like winning. I like both, and I can write fluff about anything I want, any day of the week. I can't always lay down to bed and say "I won" everyday, so I try to maximize the chances that I do get.
any advice on using a dragonmage in a core heavy army?
Your post was about as useful as a chocolate fireguard in a diabetic's house without a chimney!--realitycheque
I never really had any fluff in mind when I started making my High Elf army I just wanted to play the game so got an army that worked, sort of. It was under 5th edition and mostly consisted of spears and archers with a few silverhelms. In 6th edition I started to play more and expanded my collection , not along any particularly fluffy lines just buying units and characters that I liked.
More recently I have started to build a force that mans a small mountain pass, they consist mostly of archers and spears etc but there are a couple of small detachments of Swordmasters and a few chariots as well as Reavers that are constantly changing as they carry messages in and out of the isolated pass. This is still a small collection but for the first time I have managed to stick with a consistent colour scheme, Crimson trim with Grey armour and white cloaks. This army is sitting around 1500 pts or so.
My total army stands at around 6000 points and I can take any infantry choice without proxy about to a size of 18 or 20.
Ellyrian Reavers and Dragon Princes are still limited however with only 1 viable unit of each.
I still want a new dragon (in case I want to use 2), a griffon rider (the empire one with the curvy body), at least 5 more reavers, a unit of new Dragon Princes and all the special characters (I have Teclis and Eltharion the Blind). Tough to justify the expense to myself though as the army is pretty large already.
Teclis and Eltharion the Blind are the hardest 2 to get, as GW has ceased production of both of them. Eltharion the Grim is an extremely difficult model to find, almost impossible really. Crazy huge collection though!
As for using a D.Mage in a core-heavy army: don't. He's not even all that good in a cavalry army. Because he's a mage, he can't have any armor. The best you can do for protection is a 5+ wardsave, T3, and 2W. Bretonian bowmen love to kill him.
If you still aren't deterred, he can be sent around the flanks, jumping from cover to cover, to become a Fire-slinging, Fire-breathing, marchblocker. If he does charge in to battle, he hits about as hard as a Tiranoc chariot. If you manage to cast Flaming Sword of Rhuin (only take it if you already know Fireball) he can do a bit of damage, but he'll almost always be challenged away from the unit. Once he kills the enemy with his sword and limited attacks, the Dragon is left with nothing to eat and you'll lose based on Static CR.
His most redeeming quality is the 'Reckless' rule, which allows him to work as a deadly backup to an archmage and another mage. Making him Lvl2, giving him the Ring of Fury and Silver Wand, he is effectively cranking out 4 spells per turn, and generating 5 dice for himself (2 of his own, 1 from the pool, +3 "reckless"). Works great alongside the Banner of Sorcery, but unfortunately, this is getting heavy on the points end of things, and limits your focus on staying "core heavy".
My army is actually based on my own noble house. My parents gave all of their children two Tolkien-Elvish middle names, and the males of the family all share the name Yonerras, meaning "Son of the Unicorn." My Army is the army of the Noble House Yonerras, based on a small island north of Eataine, near the shrine of Asuryan.
House Yonerras is very small, but wealthy. They are seafaring and mercantile, odd among High Elves because of the good relations they keep with other civilized races. They even do not bear too much of a grudge against the dwarves, despite the loss of their trading colonies during the War of the Beard. They are content to sail the seas, trading with Wood Elves, Men, and Dwarves. Some elves, especially the high-minded elves of Caledor, say that their dealings have tarnished the elves of House Yonerras, making them greedy and frivolous. Perhaps this is the case, as the nobles of House Yonerras are also known for lavish parties and their finery. Two things have kept the other high elves silent on the matter, however: First, Yonerras provides almost all of the dyes found on Ulthuan. from the rare blue dyes used by the armies of Ulthuan and the people of Hoeth, to the expensive purple used by kings and the high in station. Second, the "tarnished" elves seem to have avoided the decline of other High Elves, as their birthrate is the highest on all of Ulthuan.
In fact, the only reason House Yonerras remains so small is their unfortunate love of war and bloodshed. When war arises anywhere on the world they are quick to the scene, using their charisma to make and break alliances. Although they themselves do not often broker peace they are quick to forgive and be forgiven, sometimes opening trading routes with old enemies the same day that peace is made. Even though they often sustain heavy losses the House of Yonerras (being deeply religious) remain cheerful, knowing that their friends and family have managed to avoid the dreary long lives that other elves seem to value, and have gone to the arms of Asuryan.
On the battlefield, House Yonerras is often joined by elves from every province of Ulthuan. Many of the Phoenix Guard trace their lineage to House Yonerras and even they are not quick to forget bonds of family. Swordmasters of Hoeth, with their love of battle, often feel akin the warring faction of Yonerras. Their own soldiers are often joined by the Sea Guard of Lothern, who guard their ships from attack. Their own soldiers are just as well trained as any other Ulthuan militia, though their archers tend to be found lacking in skill. It is not uncommon for so many Yonerras elves to die that the archers only get to fight one or two battle before they join the spearmen.
Because of their proximity to the center of Ulthuan, mages from House Yonerras are uncommon. The ones that manage to tame the tumultuous winds near to the vortex find, however, that they are able to control the winds of magic in a far more subtle way than other wizards. The mages of House Yonerras prefer to use abjuration magic to turn the tides of battle in their favour. They may use some offensive magic, but do not use it often as they are particularly susceptible to the dangers of spellcasting.
The capital of lands of house Yonerras is the city of Calalaith. The island is also named Calalaith. The current rulers of the House are the brothers Valarian and Lokolos.
Their colour scheme is white and purple. They are adorned with gems of every size and color, from the topaz of the archer battalions to the sapphire of the Sea Guard. Even elves from far away are expected (somewhat obsessively) to display purple. The elves of Yonerras love gold, and use it to trim their armour and weapons wherever they think they can get away with it. Although they are still bright and glorious in rank and file, it is easy to notice that they have a darker undertone, perhaps a result of countless battles and unrelenting murder.