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What Rank numbers are most people running these days?
5 x 2
5 x 3
5 x 4
Thanks in Advance
I wouldn't run anything higher than 5x2, DPs are pricey in an army that's usually hurting for points. Cav is about smashing into the enemy, you don't need 3 ranks for that. They probably won't deny ranks, but that's a minor nerf... their primary goal is to be fast and good in combat, and 5-10 get that job done just fine.
EDIT: Though 6x2 wouldn't be a terrible idea.
Fear me, mortals, for I am The Anointed, The Favored Son of Chaos, The Scourge of the World. The armies of the Gods rally behind me, and it is by My Will and by My Sword that your weakling nations shall fall. - Archaon, The Everchosen, Lord of the End Times
I've done the 2X5 for silverhelms/princes in 8th and it works pretty good - you only get a supporting attack in the back rank which sucks a little for dragon princes but they are still good - with the whole rerolling misses rule now your gonna hit like 9/10 of the time and those wounds are gonna go through if your lances charged that turn!!! I double charged a 30clanrat unit with 2 silverhelms last game killing 16 and negating his ranks - that unit died got overrun and then my silverhelms advanced out of charge range of his other units - too fun!!!
I think 2X5 is best but could see adding a couple more models in a 3rd rank mostly just to suck up some casualties so when you flank your enemy your still 2 ranks strong meaning he loses his rank bonuses due to disruption. Seems the best way to use cavalry now are to ram them into the flank of a unit thats already in combat with a block of yours from the front - Make them crumble!!!
Well I played my first game yesterday and I must say. I learnt that they do need to flank. They got annihilated by Ogres. Granted I only ran 5 which was problem #1.
Silver Helms in 2x6 is great. 12 attacks ASF lances from the riders, and 6 from the steeds. And you have to lose more than 1 of these 2+ armoured Elf before you lose a rank...
Dragon princes are of course better - but the extra rank is less effective although 18 ASF S5 WS 5 and the higher initiative attacks will cause much better things to happen against, say, Dark Elves or Slaanesh demons. Factor in their fire immunity.
I'd agree to an extent that cavalry is supposed to be killy and fighty. But I'd like the ability to knock off ransk from an opponent, especially if it then means thatthey lose leadership bonuses like Skaven or you can win combat res. And a flank charge isn;t going to get hit back anywhere nearly as much - using two HE units against these new era deathstars is great...
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