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Hi. I'm just starting up with High Elves and have bought IoB and the battalion box. From these I've drawn up a 1000 point list to get started with (which you can see in the Army Lists section ). Anyway, I just needed a BSB to finish this list so I went into a GW store to buy a single Noble blister pack. They didn't have any, but the did have the Noble + Mounted Prince set, which I bought.
As a result, I now have a Prince on a horse and was wondering if there would be any way of utilising him as I expand my army. Or is he, like his griffon-mounted cousin, destined to remain on the sprue for all time.
Not being a HE player, all I'm going to say, is that the M8, +2 AS, and the extra horse attack is good, but you need a unit of horsemen to put him in. Last edition, any hero in any unit always got a LO,S, but not in 8th edition. Since you have to be with your unit type, you need to have a unit of horsemen.
Well, I have my IoB Reavers, but they don't really fit the bill. I've heard that cavalry kinda got nerfed in 8th. Do people still run with DPs and such? Would they be a worthwile investment?
Well, calvary used to be able to run over entire armies, which seems silly in a "real life" game. Calvary still is good, but just not as ridiculous as before. DP's are good in a combo charge with spearmen, getting a ton of kills while having the ranks to break steadfast.
This is the main problem with calvary, they get stuck in combat, can't use their lances, etc... because of steadfast.
And yeah, Reavers would be a bad fit for a hero, because reavers are more for annoyance/WM hunting. They aren't as competitive in this manner, because great eagles are cheaper and kick ass.
Dragon Princes are good company.
But Silver Helmets are good as well and they profit even more of the prince´s hitting power (because they need it more).
With cavalry it´s all about knowing what you should and what you must not attack.
p.s.: If someone answers: "We don´t field SH. They are rubbish.". I´ll tell that one now: "I know how to field cavalry and can even put SH to effectivness. It´s all about experience."
But these voices grew quieter since you need 2 ranks to negate rank bonus
I understand exactly what Hallmarius is saying- Silver Helms have actually come back in style this edition (not that they should ever have gone out of style).
Mounted Princes can do well, they get your leadership to where it's needed most. I'd prefer to see one on foot for the LoS roll- if you want a 2+ save, you can get one for just a few points more than the horse.
You don't have to build your prince onto a horse, if you don't want to. You should be able to figure out a way to stick him to an extra set of legs lying around somewhere.
Most have been said, but also consider the option of a mounted BSB. It may not be super effective, but it helps giving you a decent armour save without magic items (if you have a magic banner or you have already reserved the Armour of Caledor for somone else). You gain the ability to swap units quite fast, add some hitting power to whatever unit you're with, no to mention the model look stunningly good. Exactly how a High Elf Standard Bearer should look, majestic and dynamic.
5000p. High Elves