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    Thoughts on Spearmen unit size and number of ranks?

    Sorry if this thread has already been done. What is the best size for spearmen? I currently run 2 units in thirty strong blocks. Also what is the best number for ranks? 5 * 6 or 6 * 5? Also do you run Lothern sea guards the same way? Any comments are very welcome.


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    I'm doing the same. 2 units of 30. I've been doing 5 wide 6 deep, though I might switch it up to 6x5.
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    Yeah I think a narrow frontage may be better, that way you limit attacks back but twenty can still attack if we get charged. do you think hordes work with HE spears or Seaguard?

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    Hordes are awesome, 50 madels will be needed though! i run my seaguard 4*5 and my Spears 8*4

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    I've run a 10x5 unit of LSG before - sadly everything died before I could hit them with it. A 50 model horde is only really useful if you expect to go up against a wide unit, or REALLY need that extra rank of spears. That being said when it does pay off you can kill most of an enemy horde in one go
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    Hey,

    I my 2000pt lists I'm currently running a 32-strong unit as 8x4 (Mini-horde). It's done not too badly in recent games. Been putting a BSB with the Standard of Balance in with them (been fighting Dark Elves). Got charged by a unit of 20 Corsairs with "nearly-unkillable" Dreadlord and Sea Serpent Standard and the DE bounced spectacularly (almost as good as the time my Lokhir and 10 Corsairs killed a charging unit of 20 Corsairs in one go). I run my DE Spearmen in 5x7 for anvils so I might give that a go with the High Elf block. My Seaguard number 19 at this point in time. Probably keep them as that as I use them for extra archery/warmachine/flank guarding just now, and they're too expensive to really use in a Horde (even 7pt DEs aren't worth it).
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    High Elves are WAY too expensive to run as Hordes- you're just opening yourself up to more pain from cheap enemy hordes like Gobbos and TK Skellies, who have no problem getting a 1:1 kill ratio on a T3, Sv5 block. Elves are outnumbered- you need to be able to kill off multiple hordes of enemies, and tying all of your Elves up into one huge pile is a bad way of doing it. It also makes an excellent target for huge debuffs or worse- Dwellers (bye-bye 25 elves).

    I tend to run my Spear blocks at about 25 strong, and go 5x5. For my LSG, I go with 6x4. I'd like to say that I bump them up to 7x4, but they're just too pricey. At times I run 7x3, deployed in 3 ranks to fire a total of 18 shots, and then a quick reform before combat to bring them into 5x4.

    As for the 6x5 or 5x6 argument: it depends on what you're fighting. If you think "I can't kill all of those!" (Chaos Warriors, Black Orcs, etc) then you want a narrower front. If you think you can kill your weight (unhorded gobbos, human infantry) then go a little wider and maximize your attacks.
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