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So I was going through the old Topics of the Week threads from back in 2010 and reading everyone's thoughts on the units in 7th edition. While I think it would most definitely be neat to see a resurrection of the thread to see everyone's opinions of the units in 8th edition, I'll instead focus on one of the units that most caught my eye... the Dragon Mage of Caledor!
One of the biggest things my newbie self thought about the Dragon Mage back when I played in 2008 was that its biggest strength was the Flaming Sword of Rhuin as its default spell choice. But that spell has been significantly reworked in 8th Edition, so I'd very much like to see what everyone thinks of the unit nowadays (especially with the extra hero slot no longer applying). Personally, I think the Reckless rule may really capitalize on the special attribute the Lore of Fire has. After all, the free casting dice would really help tack on those +D3 casting totals! If used similarly to before, having a Fire-heavy army might be pretty dangerous for the woefully unprepared.
EDIT : While I'm at it, I figured I would ask a question that has popped up while reading this forum... that way I don't have to start a second thread. I keep reading of "march interdictors" and blocking marches. Can someone explain this for me? I think I get the basic gist of it, but if I'm to employ such tactics, I really should know what exactly it is lol. Thanks!
Last edited by BallsOfSteel; February 12th, 2012 at 06:45.
The new Flaming Sword spell is better for the army but worse for the Mage himself. This makes the difference between the Dragon and Mage even larger in combat. So I think you pay alot for a dragon that you want to keep out of combat.
March blocking is exactly what it sounds like, you prevent marching by being within 8". This was used a lot in 7th edition, but now it is a leadership test rather than automatic as a result it's not as useful as it used to be. Especially as the BSB allows a reroll of that test so it is far less effective. It is still worth bearing in mind though especially against armies like Skaven, Orcs and Goblins, Ogres where the leadership away from the general isn't great. The challenge is to be within 8" but outside charge arcs and out of sight of shooting.
Ahhh, okay! That makes sense on the charge blocking. And I guess you're right, the Dragon Mage then does sound an awful lot like a very expensive wizard and Banner of Sorcery. Thank you for answering my questions!
He suffers from the same problem that any Elf straddling a Dragon suffers: big strong bullet-magnet of a Dragon, puny T3 Elf with hardly any armor at all. Seriously, I've lost Dragon Mages to concentrated longbow fire even back in 7th. Back then, they weren't horrible in combat, because if you charged, you got to strike first with the Dragon, who'd usually eat a whole rank of models and then be safe from return attacks. Unfortunately, now that we're in 8th, the Mage is going to swat away with his sword, die from the 2 ranks of incoming attacks, and the overspill is going to aim for the Dragon (who's pretty soft for a dragon) before he can munch/stomp anyone else in the regiment.
Sadly, the Dragon Mage was never a very good choice, unless you were going out of your mind like I did a few times, and trying to field a TON of dragons in a single list. The only time it was a benefit though was at 2k, when most armies only had 1 lord and therefore 1 opportunity to field a Dragon. Once you hit 3k, you could get 2 lords, 2 dragons, and 1 dragon mage, which was probably the only time you'd get an opponent to raise an eyebrow.
Also, Allonaire and BallsofSteel - if you'd like to see the Unit of the Week topics come back, let me know, I'll try to work something out. Besides, Allonaire, you're a ComLeader, you could technically manage it.
Yes, I would certainly like to see those make a comeback! I think it's a great way for people to share their tactics and stories with units, and how they apply to the new rulebook.