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I'm currently writing a fast HE list with lots of chariots, eagles and the like. I'm also toying with the idea of running a dragon in 2250pts, mainly due to the fact that I've never written a list with a dragon in before so I thought what the hell!
I'm thinking that with my two remaining character slots I could take two mages and give them both seer and channeler in an attempt to cast two comets a turn, with the extra power dice coming from the banner of sorcery.
But this leaves me with almost no magic defence (4 DD and no scrolls), and also leaves me without a BSB. Do you think this is a viable choice? The extra offense provided by these character choices could outweigh the negatives I've just mentioned.
This is just a bit of fun, I'm also going to write a more balanced list (I don't own any HE models so the list is all hypothetical atm) so please, no bashing me for considering a dragon in a 2250 pt list. Else I will do nasty things to you:w00t:
Comments and suggestions appreciated
It depends what the army is for. If it is a friendly list then go for the offensive mages (though I personally feel that the most offensive setup should involve both the bound spell items avalible). If the list if for a competitive situation you cannot go in without atleast two scroll in my experience, even with the High Elf +1 to dispel.
P.S. Dragons are wicked! The either take up a huge amount of fire power or win games, simple as. Either way you get a positive effect.
Argh! Well I wrote an army today and the character setup was knocking on 900 points! This left me very little to play with given the cost of yer basic high elf unit. So I think I might ditch the dragon and go for a little more magic stability. I'll post a draft list when it's done
Our local "big" tournament in April (50guys playing) had a list you might be interested in. Prince on Dragon, 8-10 man unit of Dragon Princes with the d6 combat Resolution BSB and warbanner, 4 chariots and some Silver helms and 1 mage with dispel scrolls. He did pretty well with it at first wiping some tables clean. I think he got bogged down towards game 4-5 but didn't follow him that far. I don't think anyone would like you after playing the list, but it depends on what you're going for.
I always thought it would be fun (for me) to take 2 dragons. prince on dragon and Arsanil the dragonlord from DoW. both are elves and pretty nasty.
From personal experience a dragon is boring in a 2250 game. It all becomes about the dragon. If the dragon dies you lose if the dragon lives you win.
There now off my soapbox. Don't setup a high elf dragon for combat. This may sound weird but a highelf dragon should be kept out of combat. It is much more effective that way.
The best way to use him is to move him up in hiding. Then when you get close enough drop him behind the enemy line within 6" of as many units as possible. Then have him breath on as many different units as possible. This is str4 and every unit that takes a casualty must take a panic test. You can easily cause 3 or 4 panic tests with that. Then in your opponents turn he will have to take terror tests. You should be able to cause 4 or 5 at least. So we are talking 7-9 tests to make stuff flee. Even in dwarves something is going to give.
Prince with Pure Heart, Lance, Shield, Dragon Armor, Barbed Elven Steed, Foe Bane, Vambraces Of Defense, Amulet Of Purifying Flame joining 5 dragon princes(with Banner of ellyrion), and acting as a very powerfull countercharge for spearmen/swordmasters.
Technically I think it would work very well since they can sit in cover of a forest and jump out in the last second without any penalty and surprise the oppoenet when he finaly gets to charge the spearmen. Take a unit of bull ogres for instance.
IMO it would be a waste of the prince's presence of Ld and combat prowess to hide him in a forest when he could be fighting with the infantery, but thats just what i feel.
/High Priest Huanzlat
You're prince should be in the thick of the fight using his Ld 10 and amazing WS to help you're army out.
The HE army is a whole and all components should interact and support.
The princes part in this picture is keeping the army toegtehr and provifing a bae to group around.
Hope it helps.
"Ask not the Eldar a question, for they will give you three answers; all of which are true and terrifying to know"
Prince, in combat?
Well for a start that shouldn't be the case in a larger battle IMO. With toughness of that of a blade of grass he's going to die.
It specifically says in the rule book that the princes command armies from afar and only rarely go into combat. Just becuase they have a high weapon skill doesn't mean they are killing machines. Far from it.
Surely a backward *let's lead the army with my high leadership* approach is better. Nipping in and out to use his weapon skill in times of dire need.
I generally run a prince with the following setup:
Armor of the gods, swordmaster, guardian phoenix
He comes in at 225 points. But he can do a lot. 4 STR 7 attacks isn't that awesome but it's more his versibility. Keep in mind that a lord in a high elf army is much less important then in any other army. Especially with IaC.
I stick him in a unit with 20 swordmasters (ranked 7X3) with a warbanner. The unit gets 7 STR 5 WS 6 attacks and 4 STR 7 WS 7 from the prince. It will kill most everything. charging it with chariots won't work since the prince can kill them so all you have to do is avoid choosen knight of khorne charges and maybe khorne mino's. Most other stuff they can handle. The only issue with this setup is that is is a big target for shooting so you have to add 4 chariots to immediately threaten the opponent and give them something to shoot at.
Also if the opponent runs a lot of chariots you might want to give a mage the lore of shadows and use steeds of shadow to have your prince take out chariots before they can charge.
Not saying it's perfect but it's worked well for me.