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Yay, finally managed to save some money to buy my first Space Marine models, one tactical squad :w00t:
Now, I got some suggestions from the guys who painted in my local hobby shop, but I was wondering if there are guides or thoughts that I could read up as these are my first time doing painting on any plastic models.
The guys showed me what dry brushing is, just wondering if there's any other techniques or methods might be useful.
Gonna give my models a Chaos Black base coat, and later on Ultramarines Blue. So happy to be able to start painting
Just paint carefully, and don't forget to water your paints down. They need to be about the consistancy of milk.
when I restarted the hobby recently, I got overexcited and slapped on colours and paints like some excitable baboon. With hind sight, I realise that this was a mistake.
My advise is simple:
It's really really tempting to go for results straight away - and hard to achieve without foundation paints.
So..., thin your paints, put a great play list on your computer, and take your time.
For other technical matters, I'll leave it to other more accomplished painters.. but I feel that 'washing' is a technique which anyone can master.
Basically, it's the exact opposite of drybrushing. A darker shade with watery paint that sinks into the recesses of the model and gives the feeling of shading and depth.
Very powerful, very easy.
When comboed with drybrushing, you can easily get over 9000 damage and save the banana princess.
LO RulesOriginally Posted by AnonymousOriginally Posted by Cyric
As Karmoon said, one of the most important methods is patience.
Try painting the models little by little so that it's easier to clear up any mistakes. Take your time and don't worry if a model needs more than one coat. You can always paint a new model while your waiting for the old one to dry.
Also, the smaller the brush the easier it is to be precise.
"DICE FOR THE DICE GOD!"
And the almighty Dice God said to his followers "Thou shalt not speak ye words "anything but a one" For thou whoever'st speaketh this blasphemy will be cursed with thy rolls being of one".
A small brush (and thin paints) is great when you want to paint details, Zed is right on this. But also worth mentioning is just how bad to small a brush is when you are not painting tiny details. Use a bigger one for things like armour, shoulderpads and such.
If you've watered down your paints like all others said (and you should -I know it might look like crap at first, but when it has dried and you put the next layer of paint (still just as thin) on, it'll be a remarkable difference.
So then what, when all that blue is painted? You want it to look even better?
Then yo should take a darker blue (Regal blue?) and mix it with even more water, then apply it to the recesses of the model. Whipe of any paint that goes to a wrong place with a finger or a cottonstick (you know one of those used for ear-hygiene).
You have now "shaded" or "washed" the model. Details should appear much clearer now.
Once this is dry you mix some of the main colour (Ultra Marines blue?) with a brighter colour, some use Skull White, and pick up that earlier mentioned fine brush. Use the milk consistency brighter colour on the rised areas, it's still good enough to whipe of wrong-going paint with that cotton-stick.
If you feel the need for it, give it another wash after this to hide any mistakes.
You have now highlighted your model.
Treat your brushes with respect and let the water do the work for you...and of course, be patient.
Post pics as your painting progresses and we might give more advice along the way.
Hope it helps
Kuffeh's Painting advice for the new to the
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Please note that what follows is by no means a definative guide or should be treated as gospel (though donations to the "I <3 Kuffy" fund will be appreciated), it is just some things I have picked up and have a desire to impart upon you. OK? Good
If anyone else has something to add, please do!
These are the tool of your trade. Look after them. After each use, wash them in water and dry them off into a point. They should also be stored with the tip (the brush end) pointing upwards. The most important part of a brush is the point. The point allows for detail painting and precision placement, look after them. Also, when painting, make sure your paint never reaches the metal part that hold the bristles together. If this happens the brushes life span is going to decrease quickly.
To this end, GW brushes are OK for beginners but after a while, and if you are serious about doing some good painting, then you should be looking to use other ones. The use of artist brushes are commonplace, the best ones - by general painter consensus - are the Windsor and Newton Series 7. These are expensive, but if looked after correctly they will be with you longer and serve you better than a dozen of the GW ones. That said, I would not suggest these as a first buy. These are for those serious about painting. Now, I may sound like a hypocrite here but I don't have any of these, I have used other brushes from different ranges just as well - I just never had a way of getting these or the money for them.
For the beginners, I would use with the GW ones or find some cheap sable hair brushes in an art shop. You will require a ; detail, fine detail, standard to paint. The fine detail should really have the best point and used for fiddly things like eyes and such; the standard one is fine for laying down basecoats and so forth. For drybrushing, you want an old brush. The reason being that drybrushing ruins brushes very quickly, so use one that has seen better days (or buy one specifically for drybrushing).
I also have an extra brush; namely my "mixing brush". This is what I use to move paint from my paint pot to the pallet and mix colours together. This stops my brushes from being ruined by this task. Well worth it in my opinion.
I do also have a seprate set of standard, detail and fine detail brushes for use on metallic paints. But that is a personal preference.
These are where you mix your paints. Why have one? Because for painting, multiple layers of thin paint look much better than one layer of thick paint. To this end you will require somewhere to mix paint. These can be anything from an used ice cream tub lid to a bathroom tile to a stay-wet palette*. Whatever you use, I would suggest you use something white; it shows your colours better.
To use it, you basically transfer a brush full of paint from your pot to the pallet. Now you add water until it is thinned. There is dispute as to how much water to add and how thin to make your paints. Again the general consensus is that it should be "the consistency of milk". Now, I am never good at this, so what I say is thus; eyeball it. You can never be sure and no exact measuring, in my mind, will equate the exact result each time. So I say add water drop by drop (or brush full by brush full) and see. This is my method, others may do it another way - the choice is yours.
One thing to note is that paint will dry. This means that often you will be forced to remix colours, I would suggest you make a note somewhere - like on a pad of paper - of the exact ratio you used so you can get that colour back when you need to.
* Stay-wet palettes are something that, I would say, most "good" painters use. Basically it uses a sponge with a thin layer to mix upon on top. The sponge, when wet, will keep the paper (tracing paper of grease-proof paper) damp, allowing you to leave your paints there for a long while without them drying up. Something I would not recommend until you have a good grasp of painting.
Water should be changed often. Use cool, clean water from the tap. I have two pots. One to clean brushes in and one to use for adding to paint mixes. When to change can be a pain. I would say after using any form of metallic paint - it tends to leave flakes of the paint in the water and can seriously ruin painting when you get metal flakes in there. =( Also when painting a dark colour, then going to a light colour. I would change then too. Otherwise, I would change it every so often just to make sure its nice and clean.
There is no set type of paint you must use, the most common on being GW. There are, only recently, many other ranges coming out and for the most part they all tend to mix well together, so you should have no problem should you desire to try a different range or add some to your existing one. I personally have; GW, Vallejo Game Colour (VGC) and Vallejo Model Colour (VMC) and one or two Tamiya. I have mixed most together without problems.
With paints they tend to seperate in the pots. To sort this out you need to shake them. I would suggest you do this with the lid on, otherwise it may get messy. -___^ It can vary how much they need shaking, but doing it for thirty seconds and you should be OK. If not? Do it longer. =)
Also, do not leave them with their lids open or off. Doing this means that they will dry and can result in them becoming a rock hard mass in the bottom - with you requiring a new paint; or they may dry in the lid - becoming hard to open etc. Also, it cuts down on the danger of spillage. This advice will save you from the wrath of your mother/wife/girlfriend/other womanly body in your life etc.
And as I mentioned with the palette, you should never paint from the bottle. The reason being that it will be thick. These paints are suppose to be watered down for use, it makes them smoother and they look much better when applied to a miniature. So, make sure you transfer your paint to a palette before applying to your miniature.
Now, a brief note on painting itself.
[v] PaintingPatience.This is indeed a virtue, but one you must have when painting. It is no good rushing ahead, slapping paint on willy nilly; your miniature will look terrible. Thus, take your time. Slow down. Think of painting as painting by numbers in a way. Each colour has a boundary, as going over this boundary can alter - and even ruin - the look of the next part. So, try to keep within the lines, you'll be grateful later.
Once you have this sorted, then you should be looking towards the next stages;Shading and Highlighting
This is almost exactly as it sounds. You use a darker shade of the colour you are using and apply it to the recesses of your miniature. This gives it depth and a sense of realism (sometimes) but doing this makes your miniature miles better.
The general way to do this is using a darker shade of your base colour - for instance, if you're using a mid-tone blue you was shade with use of a dark toned blue. Take your colour and add water until it looks too watery, then looking where shadows would be most likely to appear add some of your shading colour (ie on s space marine, the edging where the shoulder pad meets the shoulder pad rim). Do this everywhere and you have shaded your miniature.
This is the opposite of above. Instead of taking a darker colour and adding it to the recesses, you take a lighter shade (can be done by adding white to your mix - avoid to red, unless you want pink) and applying to the raised areas. The most simplistic way of doing this is to just go around pretty much any edge and add highlights.
The thing with highlights is that they can be too thick. Ideally you should be using only thin lines, rather than any great thick thing which can spoil the process.Drybrushing
This is a common technique, and whilst it can be put to great use on miniatures it is generally used only for bases. The way it is done, is you take an old brush and load it with your paint. Taking a tissue you wipe away al the paint until there is next to nothing on the brush. Now, you drag this near 'empty' brush across your base/miniature and the paint remaining will be applied to the raised areas only. I find to slowly drag the brush one way, then the next helps rather than quickly flicking it across the surface.
As I said, use an old brush as this will seriously ruin any brush quickly.
[vi] Extra Notes
All this aside there are many things to consider when painting a model, least of all is the colours to use. If you remember back to when you were finger painting in school and then on a bit, you would have been taught about things like primary colours and secondary colours etc. Now, I often find these colour wheels to be of good use. It will allow you to see what colours clash and what ones complement; allowing you to pick a good colour scheme.
Also, do not fear to copy another painters colour scheme. Yes, people might point it out but if it works, who cares? I mean, doesn't every gamer who plays an official GW army copy their scheme? -___^ But as it is said, copying is the highest form of flattery. =D
But also, use the colours people use and their miniatures as a guide. Often many painters will save a copy of someone's work they like and use it as a reference or guide somewhere along the lines - this is very handy. Also, do not be afraid to ask for help, on most forums the painters are generally friendly and will help you as much as they can. To help with criticism post images of your painted miniatures ( using this guide) so that people can see and help.
On the topic of criticism, please take it. I have seen so many member, all over, post something that in all honesty is terrible, but when people give honest and good feedback they throw it in their face and claim they are good enough. Listen to those better than you, read and try their advise, generally these people know what they're on about. Of course you are justified to ignore them, but I doubt that will help you to progress in your painting.
Finally, use resources. There are some amazing sites out there with helpful guides, of varying degree of difficulty, to help you progress your skills and ability; use them!!Helpful Links
Painting Tips & Guides
Fiend's Painting Tips Guide
Warhammer 40,000 Painting and Modeling Section
I hope you, and anyone else, finds this helpful. If there is anything else I can help with, please PM me or email me - kuffeh[at]gmail[dot]com and I will try to help you as much as my skill and ability will allow.
I tip i saw the GW Bluewater manager show a new space marine player, was using one of the blue foundation paints, and then watering down blue ink, adding a little washing up liquid (tiny tiny amount to break the surface tension), waiting till it dried and then adding detail ( i didn't see after the inking, but this method could be quick and effective ^^)
sound advice guys, and a great post by kuffy
something to remember is that, models are 3 Dimensional, dont just look at it straight on and paint, whilst painting look at it from different angles.
a lot of people who are new to painting leave areas unpainted or unfinished, so try to complete models, checking from different angles will help you see if you have missed anything, made any mistakes, etc.
also try not to overload your brush with paint and keep the paint on your model thin, a lot of new people will always put too much paint on cancelling out the detail and smoothness of the model.
good luck with your painting