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i see lotsa guys inhere talking about watering down their paints and stuff when doing their models, but euhm
my gw paints allready are very thin, i mostly have to apply 3 layers before i can see a smooth surface and the subcoat won't show!
so why watering down? :x
Tip: You should aim to water-down paints to the consistency of skim milk.
Reason: Thick paints tend to leave brush-strokes and, depending on the base-coat, leave inconsistent areas of colour. Applying multiple thin coats will (should) eliminate these unsightly artefacts.
If you're currently spending 3+ coats to get a consistent colour, perhaps you're using an incorrect base-coat? For example: painting Yellow on top of Black is is not a good idea!
Bonus Tip: When applying multiple coats, don't use the same colour! Paint your first coat a couple of shades darker (or a complementary base-colour, e.g., Dark Purple before Dark Blue) and bring each subsequent coat closer to your final colour. This will add depth and provide a very sharp finish.
Hope that helps!
what am I, the pope?
well i NEED black as basecoat simply cuz i well it's very handy and i also use loads of dark tones
but even when applying scab red to the dark basecoat i still need to put several layers on to make it smooth scab red.
Not to mention applying 8 layers of golden yellow on a black basecoat :/
so you say it would help that - where i want to paint golden yellow - i should do a white subcoat (perhaps manually on top of the black overall basecoat)?
Codex Grey will help you out.
1-2 coats on black will be all you need and light colours go over it very well.
Can a more experienced painter lend some advice?
what am I, the pope?
As said watering paints is important. Thick paints, ie straight from the pot, can obscure details and will not look as smooth or good as a miniature that has had its paints watered down. If yours seems thin already then it may be a bad batch or you haven't shook it up enough. But then, some paints are like this anyway.
As for the amount, everyone says "as thin as milk". Personally I say "eyeball it". Basically add water until it looks thin enough. But do always thin, it will help a lot.
As for light colours over black, the obvious way is to paint the areas you desire to colour with a grey - codex or a fortress layer (or even a mix of them both) will help here. You shouldn't have too much in the way of problems in layering on light colours.
One thing to note is the number of layers. This puts so many members off when they cannot get a flat, smooth coat in one or two layers. It doesn't work that way. It requires to build up layers, if you want a very good looking mini, or to improve your ability then you have to put aside this "*sigh* Another layer" attitude. It will not help you.
Always water your paint. Whilst GW red is incredibly thin, don't be fooled into thinking you can paint it straight on - It will pool and obscure small details if you're not careful.
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i always dip my pencil - after i dipped it in the paint ffcourse - in a water jar before applying the paint, cause idd it's still kinda 'sticky' altho it's very thin :/
For models primed black, you can also use complimentary dark colors. For yellow, I'd suggest using dark tans or yellowish browns.
Most paint guides suggest to dilute your paints anywhere from a 1/1 ratio (paint/water) to a 1/8 ratio, depending on the step. For final highlights, I generally dilute 1/8. It takes a good number of coats, but the color gradation is much improved by this method.
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Sorry, but I learned this lesson the very hard way. I used to use your technique, back when I first started. It is a horrible way to water down your paints! You'll get inconsistent results at best. Please, please, PLEASE get a palette! You WILL thank me for this later, I promise you! I conned a friend who worked at a tile company at the time to give me two sample pieces of white bathroom/kitchen tile, and I've been happier ever since. You can put a blob of paint on it, then add the brushfull of water to it ON THE PALETTE. Sounds like no big difference, but trust me, it matters. It's MUCH easier to control, and you can wet down a larger amount of paint in one shot. Only downside is, you gotta clean off the tile afterward, but I promise you, tbe few dozen models (at least, I've lost count) I've painted since I got the palette look SO much better, and were done with much less aggravation and sloppiness. I can't stress it enough: GET A PALETTE! Tile samples are often free from home improvement stores, and if you're desperate, take a white piece of paper, and use the plastic from a blister pack on top of it. That will work in a pinch.