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Hey all, I've been browsing GW's website and they seem to have a lot of components available individually. Now this got me thinking, what constitutes a tournament-legal conversion for Space Marines?
Will mixing and matching say Deathwing chainfists into my Ultramarines be legal? Wouldn't the different insignias and logos go against the Ultramarines' pure Codex attitude?
I understand that slapping on, say, an Eldar Avatar sword and calling it a close combat weapon would be pushing it, but surely mix and matching between Chapters of Space Marines is a valid option? Perhaps some Chaos Space Marines mix and match as well?
Would like to clarify this early on so I don't burn cash on custom Marines that are fun to look at but illegal to use in tournaments (even though there are none here at the moment) :yes:
Well i wouldent think there would be any thing illegal with putting on parts from diffrent armys, aslong as it looks like some sort of marine im sure its legal to use... unless your using obvious parts from other companies models then its usually illegal, and also its depending on the tornament aswell.
yeah, because everyone knows if you have some CSM shoulder pad's on you're ultramarine vets or whatever it could be illegal in a tourny cause it's not fluffy
I could convert a SM chappy on bike that is doing the hokey pokey on the front of it instead of driving, and painted in pink armour and no-one can say "you can't use that, it's not a chappy because it's pink! bla, bla, bla"
but the fact is, if it looks like an ultramarine, is painted like an ultramarine then logic says, it's an ultramarine!
a shoulder pad does not space marine make (or any other other random piece of armour)
so remember kids, don't use parts from other companies (unless it's forgeworld) cause that (unlike using other GW parts) is against all good and balanced in the world and total GW nuts will attack you with tiny little night goblins with spears!
Create flames for a galaxy and it will be warm. Put a galaxy in flames and it will be warm for the rest of it's existence.
no matter wat you do to your marine its legal as in parts you put on him, you can give him a battle cannon as a back pack and it wont do anything, anything you put on him that is GW is legal..
The most important thing to remember is "WYSIWYG" (What You See Is What You Get)
If you wanted to use an Eldar wraithlord sowrd as a power weapon, why not? It's a freaking cool sword. But Please please please make sure that what you arm the model with on the list is represented on the model. There's a guy at my GW who I refuse to play any more cos he gives his Marines stuff on the list but not on the model.
Him: "I get to re-roll cos my vet sarge has a mastercrafted bolter."
Me: *Looks at the rather plain bol PISTOLr* "Does he?"
Him: "Yeah. I know he only has a bolt pistol but it's suck a nice model I didn't want to ruin it."
My rules are: So long as it looks fairly realistic, and the model can use it, then why not?
Ditto to what Stormchaser said:
The rule to follow for tournaments is WYSIWYG: What You See Is What You Get
Which means if your terminator is allowed to take a chainfist, and you pay the points for it, then the model should have SOMETHING that reasonably represents a chainfist modeled on it. Whether its a SM plastic chainfist, metal Dark Angels chainfist, Chaos chainfist, eviserator, or some kunnin' mekboyz's nightmare concoction that just barely resembles a chainfist, it doesn't matter as long as its represented on the model (and your opponent is aware of what it is).
As far as fluff goes, as long as you have a believable backstory for it, and it fits within the GW kanon, its viable. Maybe that Ultramarine's powerfist was a gift from a Dark Angel for some act of heroism, or that power klaw was a spoil of war captured from a wily greenskin warboss. Hey, it could happen!
If you like a part and think it would make a great conversion, go for it! You can always sand down or cover up any unwanted icons or symbols, thats the beauty of conversions.
So to sum it all up: the only things that are not tourney legal are not modeling wargear on the model and using non-GW models. Other than that, GO FOR IT! ^_^
Originally Posted by swntzu