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Hello, fellow forumgoers! I didn't know where better to put this question, so please let me know if it's inappropriate.
I've got a good spark for an idea for a scratchbuilding project, but I need just a little help. I'm working on a plan for a self-designed Space Marine shuttlecraft/lander, and I'm looking to Forge World's models of the Arvus Lighter and Thunderhawk Transport for inspiration.
I'm planning on using this Transport as a potential stand-in for a Drop Pod, but also for a couple other possibilities. The point is, it should have VTOL (Vertical Take-Off and Landing) capability. I'm assuming that both the Arvus and the Thunderhawk can do this, because they have landing feet rather than wheels, but I can't seem to pick out any vertical thrusters. Does anyone know where the landing jets are on either of these vehicles? The picture links are included below:
Also, I'm presuming that both of these craft are spaceworthy, even though their engines clearly have air intakes. Is this incorrect?
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Interesting question (and idea)!
I can't see anything that looks sufficient to provide VTOL thrust for them either to be honest. Either FW never considered to model these on (I don't believe the Vulture or Valkyrie have anything like that either).
Maybe they can use limited anti-grav drives for takeoff and landing?
And yes, both the Arvus and the Thunderhawk are spaceworthy.
I really don't have a clue, but maybe you should ask the fluff-gurus too. They have insights in things I didn't even knew existed...well more like kind of existed as it is like an imaginary world, but still they know stuff... like how things that don't exists works...
Eh..yeah. They'll know.
Ah, this question is best suited to the scions of the Adeptus Mechanicus. Praises be to the Omnissiah, all hail the Machine God! What knowledge do you require?
They are attached to the underside (indicated by the red circles) of the main thuster engine fusilage, angled to provide maximum lift for the vehicle's body. The Thunderhawk's thrusters are similarly configured, though must provide much more lift because of the extra weight of armor and cargo it carries. The thrust from the engine is first directed downwards creating upward lift, then at the desired altitude, is switched to the main thrusting engines for forward motion.
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Your problem is that you're looking for something that isn't there. Not merely because no-one bothers to model VTOL onto sci-fi stuff but because it shouldn't be there at all! The VTOL used by the Imperium is based around anti-grav rather than brute thrust- just take a look at the land speeder. Those stubby little wings are there for steering, not lift!
A skilled Thunderhawk pilot can bring the vehicle in on a low approach and then induce a air-brake, heavy-flair stall, dropping the aircraft onto it's anti-grav 'pad' produced by AG generators inside the vehicle (I'm sure I don't need to explain why anti-grav generators don't require emittors). This is why these transports are so good for rapid troop insertions they are flying at full-speed until virtually the last moment when they conduct a short, AG-controlled drop onto the ground. This is pretty tricky to do and this is probably why Imperial Navy lighter pilots will begin their Ag descent from greater altitude. Their unmodified anatomy and physiology would not be able to tolerate the stresses that SM pilots can and do generate in their manuevers.
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Man that's all to much to think about.I just like the idea of the drop pod.
"YOU! You! And you! Get in the pod! Grab something! Shut up! You'll be on the planet in a minute!" and as the doors shut on the confused marines they feel the sharp shuder ofthe pod releasing from its cradles, and a whine as the doors open. Silence for a second, and then the hear an explosion as they are shot out of the craft and begin planetfall. Possibly soiling themselves as they go..... to be continued...
Man, so much more fun and requires less thought than landing a ship :p
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