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Well, I've shattered my old 'Da Boyz Hut' and being a bit downtrodden I decided to give something easier a go, and here it is.
From Dawn of War, the chaos Sacrificial Pit. Obviously Mine is a bit taller than the original but I'm happy with how it worked out. Obviously some painting needs to be done.
With my 'Da Boyz Hut' after I applied the flock, with half a ton of glue, and put about 2 layers of paint over it, I went back to it a day later and the base had curved all the way up.
I was using polystyrene I think, that white stuff you get with tv packaging, that tends to break off into grains.
Can anyone help me figure out what to do so I don't have a repeat of my boyz hut?
And here is my new, TO SCALE (compared to the game at least), Boyz Hut.
Last edited by omgitsduane; November 23rd, 2007 at 16:58. Reason: Apologies in advance for the Good Charlotte poster :P
You ask a good question and its taken me a LONG time to come up with an answer. As a near expert in the field of scenery building Im going to suggest that you never use the white stuff again. ITs a horrid type of foam in my opinion that doesnt take paint or glue well, your better spending the extra 8 bucks and buying the pink insulation foam. Anyways we still have the problem of paitning your pit. You could do one of the following:
First understand why with Da Boyz Hut the glue didnt hold. This type of foam has a very slippery surface and its only held together by bonds made by heating up the foam whenits shaped. These particlas dont like to let things stick to them, they hve a very slick surface on a molecular level. SO when glue and paint tries to grab onto it when its drying it cant and will eventually warp and peel off. Other insulation foams like the pink and bl;ue ones are very coarse and have plenty of pockets for the paint and glue to stick to.
1) Use a heat sorce like a torch to slightly (and I mean slightly) melt the top coating of the foam so that it gives you a better surface to paint onto. I dont suggest this way but if you do it practice on a spare piece of foam and do it outside becuase its going to stink to the high heavans. Use an aceltyne torch or lighter for a controled heat sorce.
2) Now Ive dont this method on pink foam but im not sure how well its going to work on white beaded foam. Use a wood filler or putty and smear is lightly all over the piece. This will dry and harden into a good textured surface to paint on. The putty shrinks and cracks so Im not sure if it will rab onto the white foam or not. ITs worth a try.
3) Cross your fingers and just paint it as is. Theres always a chance that it will come out.
4)This is the one that no one likes to hear and Ive had to face the music myself a few times. You need to take poles out of the white foam and salvage as much from this project as possible and start over with a better quality foam. Im sorry if it comes to this but you have ideas, just need better material. Im sure if you use the ink or blue foam this piece will come out exaclt as you imagined it.
Good luck to you sir and if you have any other questions feel free to ask.
Well my first question would be, where do I get pink foam, but youre from new york, so our way of getting materials will be slightly different I can imagine.
I grabbed the foam because I didn't know it was going to be such a massive prick, It help up well with the paints till i cut the base in half, it must have pushed it over the edge and curled because it didnt have the support of its perfectly flat surface...
As for taking the poles out, it took like an hour, I'm willing to give this a shot with just lightly spraying over it, and melting it slightly then painting it there. That would work right? The sticks are in pretty deep so I don't think they will be poking back out anytime soon.
And since its 4:30am and I'm in a building mood, If I don't have the materials now, I will probably never have gotten this far.
I know that when you paint the stuff, it melts but only VERY slightly, unlike with the super glue I use, which could burn through that whole piece in about 8 drops ^_^
If I spray it, very lightly, just to get a stable base up, then I should be fine? I think I just repeated my Question anyways.
Balls in your court, and thanks for the reply
WEll pink foam can be brought through most building supply centers. And yes melting it with a spray paint can also work for creating a solid base to paint on. BUT again use a test piece so that you dont destroy your work. Again good luck.
Thanks, I'll give you a rep for warning me about all that. Ive done sprays on other bits and pieces I've made, and unless I hold the can directly on the same area, it tends to just move in a few mm.
I Don't think there is much difference to be honest, and it gives a "cratered" feel to the foam overall instead of just a flat surface that I've given it from carving so it might be for the best. What do you think?
Last edited by omgitsduane; November 23rd, 2007 at 17:45. Reason: Links update.
If thats the look your going for then you have hit the jackpot. THe question is will the paint and glue grab onto the surface of the pit now? Heck now that the surface is cratered you might not even need to use sand or flock for texture.
Yeah I think it's going to be for the best. I can't find anything about Pink foam anywhere on the net that seems useful So I'm stuck with it anyways.
I think if you're having trouble modeling and converting and scenerying its because of good charolette or fallout boy or whatever angsty emo band is staring your down :C:C:C
Yeah the guys from Good Charlotte arn't the best help when it comes to modeling terrain
They did say something about how much they loved it last time you went and had tea with them at their house though.