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ok i was thinking about it and all i ask is for feed back on how to make better not what u think is wrong. PS i like shiney lol and there all varnished once so they will be a bit shiney for the time being til i dull it down. my ork is mostly brown cause i figure he is not one to put clothes together or anything so he would just grab anything wrap around and go. i still need help with shading i got basic consept but find it hard on black how do u recomend 3:1 white black? the sword looks blotchy BECAUSE!!!! it not to much paint like it looks it is me trying to highlight metal:p that bolt gun in middle and mithril on side. i may suck at painting but blochy i never be :p. oh and i want my guys to look like there goin into battle so clean not been there for a while and dirty.
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Last edited by minus_t; January 13th, 2008 at 11:52.
With what you have there, a nice black ink wash on all the metal bits will do nicely. Remember to take your time and that less is more.
The Highlighting on the Ork Boss is brilliant. Now if you can translate that onto his trousers/back holsters, that would upgrade the whole thing from brilliant to Awsome
ok, you have stated that you are having problems paiting over black.
i undercoat all my models black, it forces me to build the colors up which helps me shade (by simply not painting much in the recesses) and its easy to highlight.
in order to paint well over black you are going to have to build up the color, using brown, paint a thined coat (or 2) over the black of the darkest brown you have, then move up to lighter shades until its the color you want. this will make the leather look really leathery for sure. as you lighten up you can stop panting in the cracks to have an easy shading affect, then as you get lighter, just paint on the top-most parts for the highlights.
this may require some paint mixing depending on the colors you have, personally i invest in many of shades of colors i use, so i have 3 blues, 3 greens, 3 reds, 2 orange, 3 browns, and 2 metal-ish just for starters. it helps a lot when highlighting/shading.
Last edited by sinistersp; January 11th, 2008 at 15:30.
I hate to say it but you really can't get constructive criticism and not know what areas need to be fixed or improved upon.
First I will say that you did a great job at painting cleanly. You have separated the areas very well with minimal paint spill. The paint also looks fairly smooth.
Starting from the beginning - While prepping your models to paint I would make sure you scrape off all the mold lines. The chain axe in particular has a pretty nasty apparent one on the top. This alone will make the model quite a bit better looking. To me it is the difference of it looking like a toy and more like a model. I would also recommend drilling out the gun barrels.
I would also recommend you go back and re-think your paint scheme. I understand your reasoning for all the brown from a "story" prospective - but from a painting one it looks rather bland and you have missed all kinds of opportunities for details. One thing I have found is that is you don't want to use a lot of color or use highlights - you can paint neat flat colors and then accentuate them by picking out a lot of the little details on the model and work on highlighting them. This way the eyes are distracted from the flat tones of the model by all the pretty little details. It is quicker to paint this way and will really up the ante on your model's appearance.
Personally I would also recommend you re-think the glossyness. This is a personal choice but I find the glossyness of the figure to be distracting as light reflects like crazy over its surface.
If you want to go beyond this the next area to look at would be highlighting. Find the raised muscle pattersn in the skin and take your base color and lighten it. Keeping your paints thin and translucent will help blend them into the layers underneath. Do the same with the other parts of the model.
Lastly I would recommend basing them in some manner. Wether it be sand and a little static grass or elaborate urban ruins. Having a well done base along with your figure will help capture and overall completed feeling to the figure. Personally I would think about constructing said base as I was cleaning/assembling the model but it can be done afterwords with care.
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Last edited by minus_t; January 11th, 2008 at 17:19.
Hear hear Slorak, it's good to see someone taking the time to write helpful and friendly replies.
I agree with everything slorak suggested, it is all good stuff.
If you need a little help with any of those things, take a look inside some of the threads pinned at the top of the Painting Forum, there are links a plenty inside them, which may help out when it comes to techniques etc.
Finally, scarycrow, please take a little more time and effort to punctuate and spell your posts properly. If you have problems with spelling etc, why not type your posts out in Word (or a similar text editing program) and have it spell-check them for you?
Alternatively, there are many browser plug-ins that can do the same thing for you, while you type.
edit: I've also changed the title of your thread to reflect the new additions. If you would prefer to have this as a project thread, let me know and I'll transfer it for you.
Last edited by minus_t; January 11th, 2008 at 17:17.
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Not too exceptional, but not bad either. Next thing you need to learn is how to use washes for shading.
Oh yes, and you only highlight black armor lightly on the very edges. The way you did it, it's dirty grey armor. There is a trick, though: Paint the armor in flat black and then PAINT gloss varnish over the armor (very carefully, you want to avoid hitting the recesses or getting the paint over the edges). Hey presto, instant neat black armor.
Hmmm... For your ork, try ink washing it in a deeper brown or black. Then once that has dried, try dry brushing (very lightly) a slightly lighter brown. It will bring out the detail in the cloths and stuff.
For the metals on all of your models, try undercoating that section in black. Then move up to a gray of some sort. After that, try drybrushing the silver or whatever shiny color you want to use on top of it.
Hey! Look at the little.... Oh ****!
I don't know where everyone else went to painting school, but I went to the school of Brown Ink. I use it on ANYTHING that could be considered an 'earth tone.' Also at my school, they taught me never to use black ink. Anywhere you could use black, use brown. I may be alone in this, but there are some folks out there who seem to enjoy my painting. They could be on drugs. I wouldn't be suprised.
And the best piece of advice I ever got on this forum (I forget who said it):
ITS JUST A MINI! You can always strip it and paint it again.
(A side note: Not to flame, but I really had a hard time reading your post.)
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