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Ok i get the idea as to why make bases look good, but other then the plain sand dirt and snow why? I know it looks good and makes the model stand out, but other then just staying in one spot for model purposes, it looks dumb. Like my friend built a tree by his base and i find it really annoying that the stupid tree follows him around the battle feild.
whats ur guys stand on it?
I think it looks nice and gives the model more "feel" to it. What looks better: A model standing on (what looks like) actual ground, or a model standing on a chunk of black plastic? It adds some more character.
I do have to agree though, the base can look out of place sometimes, like a snowy base on a desert table, or jungle in urban terrain.
As for the tree, I guess that situation is a bit unusual. Most people tend to only put larger things like that on their display models.
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i like giving my models a bit more feel to the base but i do have to agree that some people go a little out there, this is probably 1 of my most extensive bases
and i don't really see much point in going all out unless its a display piece.
as for the tree, it might be his friend so whenever they move up he pulls it out and plants it near him for good luck lol
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It just makes everyones lives easier. Especially mine, as I don't really want to have to start editing posts just so they are readable, and it kinda seems like the painting forum is heading that way at the moment...
...And onto the question.
As far as I'm concerned, a base can do many things.
It can (at it's simplest) give a model something to stand on. Sounds stupid huh? Seriously, look at any model with any kind of basing, then at an equally well painted model without. Which one looks better?
Slightly more complicated, you can use it to make models stand out. Your space marine captain would look way more heroic leaping, lightning claws flashing, from an ancient and ruined marble pillar; at least, more heroic than he would strolling across the ground checking his in-built chronometer...
You can use them to theme an army. You've got an army you want to look melancholy? Ruined city-scapes all round, baby. Hows about a Nid army with horrific new organisms bursting from the ground as the hive fleet pushes the planet's eco-system into overdrive?
Finally, how about using them to tell a story, or continuing a theme? A Wood Elf army will look pretty tasty painted up in autumnal colours, with dead leaves on the ground, scattered over dead beastmen...
At the end of the day, it's really up to you. If you don't want to base, don't. However, a final thought that I always like bear in mind:
If you have a based model, sure, it may look out-of-place on a different table; but a model on a primed black base? Looks out of place everywhere.
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Although excessive basing can sometimes go too far and take away from a piece, I believe that appropriateness depends on the level of piece (play, show, both, etc.) Excellent basing can really make a model shine.
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There's an art to it -- making a base that's not too audacious or flashy, and one that complements the model at the same time. The model should always be the main feature of the base, and the thing that gets noticed first... and then afterward you should go "whoa, cool base."
I think something like a tree would be a little too much, yeah. But stuff like IG weapons teams hiding behind a pile of rubble, or Penitent Engines stepping over twisted ruins, all looks fine and generally fits in with the theme.
I find that a base is there to complement the model. I sometimes do extra stuff on the bases of my models just to make the more interesting or sometimes because it fits with the model. I have a Carnifex with acid maw and I gouged out some trenches in his base. I then filled them in with PVA and painted it green. The idea is that the Carnifex is drooling it's acid everywhere and it's melting holes in the ground.
I also have a Malanthrope with lots of body parts from the Zombie sprue on the base. This works as the Malanthrope follows the main assault and eats up the dead and dying. I think if you want to make a base fit in you should also consider it's rim not just what's on it. If the rim is painted graveyard earth it will fit in with most types of terrain and graveyard earth is a very neutral colour. I personally paint mine black as I want my Tyranids to look like alien invaders and stand out.:party:8X
I guess it depends on what you're looking to do. In my gaming group there are about half of us who put a lot of time and effort into our models and others who don't. I'm not saying that those who don't are stupid or anything, just that they tend to be more focused on actually playing.
I spend minimum 1.5 hours on each model, and on vehicles and character this can be as much as 10 hours. Obviously if you put that much time in the model the base should at least be paid a little mind to... otherwise it brings down the whole look of the fig.
I just base so it looks like my gaming table, and that there's a ring of color around the model, like a video game. Or is a video game like a model base...? I'm confused, but thats all I do.