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I have a giant table (4.2 x 5.4 foot) and I want to cover a large quantity of it in flock, I have a sandpit outside, but we have two dogs and they mark everything if you know what I mean.
Where could I buy very large quantities of flock?
and what kind of glue is best to go about gluing things to a table? I want it to be watery enough that it will just flow over the board, or can I just add water to simple pva glue or whatever? help please because I'm wanting to get started on actual work for my board and this is the first step in my book.
well when i wanted to base my 4x2 board i used a mix of white elmers glue and water with 1 to 2 or 1 to 1 what ever thickness you want it and pored it into a squirt bottle and started spraying or you could paint it on
but elmers white glue works best
for flocking im not sure were i heared this or if it even works you blend up green foam you know the hard kind with lots of bubbles in it that is almost plastic or felt
now remember that im not sure if either of those will look good or even work
you might be able to go to your local hobby store and ask for a large amount of flocking and they might ave a bucket of it
Yeah I just may have to ask them, there is a hobby shop in my city that sells large bags I think If I remember correctly, but I probably don't thanks anyway dude
just remember that elmers white glue is your best friend when flocking
Another good, and relatively cheap method, is to grab a big bag of sawdust and use that - it'll be a lot cheaper than buying a stack of flock.
Glue it to the table - bunnings, warehouse or somewhere should have large bottles (2L+) of PVA glue (white woodwork glue) for quite cheap. You can mix this with water (either 2:1 or 1:1 glue:water) and get an absolute bucketload.
A paint place – or once again bunnings – should be able to colour match some water based paint – I suggest taking in a tub of goblin green/catachan green and a tub of snakebite leather or another similar brown/sand colour and getting a 1 ltr pot made up of each, again this doesn’t cost too much.
You can also pick up a cheap (approx $20) electric air-brush from bunnings – it’s used to mainly paint fences etc and has a 1L pot attached to it. Water down your paint 1:3 paint:water and spray it on.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain (It's time to roll the dice)- Mattrim Cauthon
Try to find a hobby shop that specialises in miniature trains - those guys build massive, realistic landscapes for their trains to run through, and they could very well be the last store you'll ever need for scenery related supplies and advice.
I recommend what Exarch Thomo says.
Its far cheaper to get fine sand or sawdust and mix with PVA etc. After you paint it whatever colours you want it will be a lot stonger and durable than just gluing down flock.
Easier, cheaper, stronger... What more could you ask for?
If you need any help with the details let me know, i'm a scenery guy.
Playground sand from a hardware store has the benefit of being sterilized, so you're not bringing any extra creepy crawlies into the house. And it's sold in big bags, it's what I used to base 4' by 4' and 4' by 6' boards.
Something else you might want to do is paint a 1:2 or 1:3 coat of pva/water over the whole thing when you are done flocking, but before you paint. This will give it an extra firm hold and prevent pieces from flaking off. This works best with flock/sand you need to paint. If you do it over flock that is already green or brown it could give it a glazed over appearance.
Ok lets see what we got here to work with. As for the sand yeah dont use it, unless of coarse you bake it on a cookie sheet in the over for about 20 minutes on 350 degrees. That will kill anything that was living inside of it. Or you could always just got andfind a different area of sand to use. When it comes to foliage I suggest useing woodland scenies materials. They make sand look just that much better when they are blended ontop of it. Welcome to Woodland Scenics! Home of everything for Model Railroad Scenery! Theres the link and a big container or flock will last a long time. AS for gluing the table use the following,
For sand jsut coat areas with woodglue and dump it on top. Then brush off what ever doesnt stick.
For flock and sand it gets a little trickier but the results are awesome. First stray the area with water to moisten the surface. Then sprinkle enough sand around to cover the surface. Then with a spray bottle full of water and some rubbing alcohol(this breaks the surface tension on the sand and lets the glue work better; you dont have to do this it just helps). With the sand wet sprinkle a little more sand and the flock ontop. Then wet again untill you get the look you want. now drench the area with a 1:1 mix of white glue and water. This will look like crap I can promise you, but when it dries several hours latter it will look awesome and will be rather hard to destroy.
Hope that helps,