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ive been doing some converting/gs-ing lately, and i love it!
one problem keeps popping up though:
Lets say i make an awesome conversion, lets say i make a brilliant combi-plasma/melta cool variant of something..
now, is it ok if i use that prototype and cast several of them for my own use?
in my mind its just a shortcut to gs-ing up 10+ identical bits, but id wager gw would disagree, since theyre still 40k-based..
same goes for the special weapons like powerfists and the like, since we usually only get 1 per box, ok to make more?
This is all just for personal use, btw.
sidenote: im actually in the process of sculpting a lesser daemon for my chaos marines atm, since we dont have any actual designated models anymore, if she turns out good ill split the sculpt and cast her
(she'll be slaaneshi, cross between a gorgon and the mistress from dungeon keeper)
Last edited by arachnid; May 14th, 2008 at 16:51.
I always play personal games and never tournies or in store games..... Which means I violate ever GW rule ever set down. I recast bits, I combine warmachine/rackham/LOTR/ models in, I play "counts as", etc. It makes the Game and the Hobby much more colorful.
So in my humble opinion do whatever your heart desires. And once any of these recast pieces are painted if anyone in a GW tournie asks where you got 10 power fists from, just say a bits store.
Also, It's not like your selling these or making any profit on them at all.
So Legally you should be fine anyway. But I'm always weary of GW's Gestapo as is.
To re-state what lucky has said but in a less copy right infrindgement way. If you made it then it should be fine as you own the design and they don't have a problem with regular green stuffing.
The Demon models. I'm not so sure on. Not because they are in violation of copyright but because most tournies have a rule that a model must be 50% gw
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You can caste whatever you make. If you converted a bolter to be a combi-plasma using GS, you can't cast it. Once you are finished with the model take a look at the model. If there is anything plastic and pre-made, you have yourself a legal issue.
Of course you could just be a pirate.
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GSing is fine though, if you sculpt the demon, then you sculpt the demon. Really though- it is literally to be read as GREEN STUFFING is fine. Using any other substitute is a bad idea. Granted, under a layer of paint who knows WHAT you used?
For example: vacuum forming (aka making a mold) is HIGHLY illegal. But... my friend went to Games Day with an entire converted marine 'Armored Spearhead' made from 2 kits and some bitz ordering. The models weren't even citadel grey, they were Army-Man green. They felt the same, weighed the same, looked identical, and NOBODY KNEW. They even asked him how much he spent on his army and he laughed and said "you can buy all this stuff online for $xxxx (literally a 4digit figure)" See- no lying, he never said how much *he* paid for them 0:
So- here's how it goes: if you don't tell, and we don't tell, and none of it looks like it's from another range... you're cool
Arachnid, People are WAY too cautious these days. If you make your own weapon that has plastic bits in it, you can cast it FOR YOUR USE. The second you give one to a friend, sell the mold, sell a cast piece or sell a picture of a cast piece or mold you have broken the law. If you're just using it for your own personal enjoyment you can make as many as you want AND play in tournaments with them.
If you make your own piece (head, torso, arm, weapon...) completely out of sculpting medium then you can cast as many as you want and sell them to whom ever you want, just as long as you didn't sculpt it to look exactly like a GW licensed product, image, or symbol.
Last edited by RexTalon; May 16th, 2008 at 04:39.
I want a vaccum former.
Haha, no- you want to learn how to vacuum form. You can build a vacuum "former" on your own with a basic understanding of shop work. I don't want to tell anyone how to, because i don't want to get the forum in trouble with the GW Geheimlichstadtpolizie (SS) but you can google it, or ask a few fine-scale modelers.
Beleive me, it's totally worth it to learn. It's not always 100% amazing, because the finer details don't always pick up unless you have a really good agitating system. But, having to reshape or define some of the details is better than sculpting or buying them all the time.
I didn’t think vacuum forming scaled down vary well, hmmm. But if you do a good job with resin casting no one will able to tell that your bits aren’t GW. I say go for it. I’m doing it.
Well, if you scrathc build them then you can cast and sell them as they are yours. unless you use things like the Aquila logo or Tau symbol. Stuff like that.
If you converted it then you probably could get away with casting it for your own personal use. But I know NOTHING!