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I've been having a pig of a time painting white armour on Sisters of Battle. First time I have deviated in their direction and for some reason the results are coming out fairly -grainy-
Normally progressive layers come out very smooth; but white keeps on gaining a grainy quality after it dries, sometimes between layers. I've tried my friendly friendly retardner, and simple water thinning, tried overlayering. Just doesn't seem to go down well.
The problem is I want them to look very -bright-, so I can't use mostly a light grey and only hit in to bright white as a highlight.
Any suggestions? I've tried looking for tutorials and they all seem to be dull grey or just not bright enough for armour for holy ladies.
As a secondary: any suggestions for slicker looking black armour? I've not done -actual- black before, only deep, deep purples. Anyone know an artificial glossy look to armour without resorting to a gloss? Unlike marines, I can't just gloss on due to the fact sisters have robes and flesh on show.
The thing with white is that it is the "ultimate" colour, as in there is no actual way to highlight it. This is why using pale grey is the way forward. You can still make the white look bright, it just won't be actual pure white. This is a very good tutorial from our own Minus_t Painting White armour That is a method I would suggest you try using. =)
But in general, you'll need much more than one or two layers for white. I find to get a nice light colouring you need five or more at least for it to a) look smooth and b) cover well.
There is the way of painting black, then gloss varnishing just the armour itself with paint on varnish. But again, black is another difficult colour to work with as it suffers from turning grey if highlighted wrongly, however if not highlighted enough then it looks unhighlighted. You need to find that balance for yourself really.
i find a black ink works well on black armour to give it a bit of a shine.
I suppose it depends how good a painter you are, because there are clearly better results out there than mine if you have time or talent.
Look at GW website for Black Templars, there is a section on how to paint black armour IIRC.
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Minus t's guide provides a -very- blue miniature; it looks more sky than white.
I should have mentioned my method: I start from (vallejo) stonewall grey, and work in a 70/30 to 50/50 spacewolves grey for a blue hue. It's a sharp progression so it doesn't look too dirty, or too warm and blue; the whole miniature gets covered in ghostwolf to allow for a decent base for the final white after a start 30/70 to white;
I've tried various different bases, or working from just the basecoat (white) with white, but it always comes out grainy
There is a mention on the GW site of doing black armour, but to be honest if you look at their results, they are quite poor if you are aiming for a shiny glossed look ;3
I find the only way to get white looking natural without taking all my life to paint is to simply paint the area white, chuck a shade (not a wash, not an ink, brush the bugger on) where it's needed and to move on. Admittedly I've only done this on textiles thus far.
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I followed -T's tutorial for my marines - and they turned out ok - even for me!
I understand what you mean about the blueness - so maybe try this instead - I use Vallejo and GW paints so excuse the mix of brands...
White base coat
Codex grey (GW) wash into the recesses
Codex grey mixed with ghost grey (V) (1:2) for darker parts
Codex grey with ghost grey (1:3/4 depending on how you like it) for the lighter shadows
Ghost grey for the rest of the plate
Highlight with skull white (GW)
Might be a bit dark for what you want but I find it works out ok...
I can't get on with the foundation paints - I always seem to put them on too thick and end up ruining my top coats by not having a smooth undercoat...
I think the easiest and most foolproof way of getting good whites is to throw on 2 layers of astronomicon gray (slightly thinned down with water). This foundation paint gives the absolute best base for a pure white. Then you can take your skull wihite and highlight as you see fit. Giving it just one coat of white and leaving the recesses astro. even looks good. Preferably though one highlight of 75 skull:25 astro and then pure skull on the edges. It look sfantastic and only takes 4-5 layers.
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I use reaper paints for painting white. I start out with a color called Bloodless Skin - It is a light grey color but it has just a hint of green and brown in it. Next I wash it with black wonder wash - black ink diluted with Future Floor Wax. I then use Reapers Linen White in thin coats. Finally I may use Reaper Pure White to highlight the white, but I use it sparingly. Most of my whites come out with a porcelain kind of look to them. I also mix in a little bit of Windsor Newton flow improver for water colors - you can find it at any art supply store - it will increase the amount of time you have to blend in the paint before it dries - but you will want to cut it with water and only use a little bit otherwise you will wait a long time for one coat to dry.