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I am starting up a Vampire Counts army and only a few zombies have paint on them so far. Before I get to the main troops and characters I wanted to pin down a color scheme for the army and stick too it.
I am pondering avoiding the typical purples and dark reds of most Vampire Counts armies. I can't really deciude which way to head with it.
For the moment I am considering black. Using varying shades of black on most armor and leather with some dirty linen on some of the clothing. I am hesitating on this however for two reasons.
-Black may be very difficult for someone new to the hobby to shade and highlight well. ??
-I don't want a bland looking army with no focal point due to lack of color. ??
I do like the black idea though, as I think it would end up looking rather menacing if done right. I just can't figure out how to work it...I'd want it to be a very bold. Admantium colored armor, black and linen colored clothing, linen and browns elsewhere. I also had the idea of doing my ghouls a pale, ghostly white, with dark black claws and eyes.
I'd like to have one central color, and then use a some sparing amount of another color to indicate elite troops.
I addition to my specific concerns any comments on methods of unifying an army through paint scheme would be great.
Even though the black seems cool, it wont stand out much, and unless you can do it decently, it might just look like an unpainted area. one of my gaming partners has a wicked color scheme consisting of green/white, so representing like an old line of nobles or something.
Keep in mind the army consists of shambling hordes of skeletons just raised from the dead...something tells me the necromancer doesn't give a damn about giving them any heraldry haha. I would recommending keeping the colors to the elite units such as the grave guard, knights, black coach, and heros, as they would be the ones that have time/previously had some heraldry on them.
anyways, thats just my thoughts on it, as even though the bulk of the army will be skeletons/zombies, if you have units spread around the army all with the same scheme, the army will still be tied together.
One last note, it is possible to give every model some heraldry, however that would take some converting and modeling to make the zombies/skeletons to represent recently risen peasants/soldiers, so then their colors would be of the city/empire your army is capturing...which you could include/create in your armies background...
shows us pics as the army progresses!
I too wanted to avoid the traditional Vampire Counts colour schemes when I started my army, as much as the normal GW scheme does look pretty cool. I also decided I wanted to use warm colours as opposed to cold, just because I hadn't seen too many Vampire Counts armies painted in brighter hues.
I ended up going with Orange, which as I've found isn't a really good idea. I don't know if what I've done will be of any help to you (I have a project thread if you want a look) but I have found that it's not all that difficult to tie the army together through colour.
I haven't used zombies, and couldn't find a place fore the army colour on Dire Wolves, but on Skeletons you can paint your army colour on their shields, and the Wight units (Grave Guard, Black Knights) have plenty of cloth to add touches of your army colour to.
Also, if you haven't already done this, you may want to search through the painting forum here for tips on painting black. I've seen a few threads about it in the past, you may find something that will help you.
I do like the idea you've had for your Ghouls!
Oh, and one other thing I've found that helps; take a good long look at one of your minis, and plan out your colour scheme. In some cases I've even sketched the mini in question and coloured it on paper, to see if the planned colour scheme works. Paint a test figure if you're still not sure.
Have fun with the army!
Thanks for the responses, you both gave some good insight.
deadmonkey: yes exactly, thats what i feared. black areas looking more like unpainted primer than anything else. also i'm not looking to really do them up in heraldry just link them subtly with color across their ranks.
deadstar: thanks for linking your project thread. those are great pics. i think the orange isn't bad, seeing how you've done your black knights as bretonias I think it works. red and purple are just a great fit which is probably why they are seen so much. its hard for me to really see others colors on them. they are death after all.... maybe i'll try a subtler more violet purple....bruise like.... which may go well with pales skin on rotting flesh. glad you like the ghouls idea, i think that one is a go.
yes, now that i think about it, colors like purple, orange, dark red, and others could work well in the army, as long as it doesnt look out of place.
so one idea i had is that by using green stuff, you could sculpt and add a little ribbon/wavy thing or such on the end of the skeletons spears' or something and then paint that the color.
You could also go further by using brettonians and exchanging certain parts with the skeleton sprue. by going this way, a uniting color would fit perfectly, as the skeletons in the army are all part of the same brettonian army...just a thought
I was thinking of starting Vampire Counts myself. But i ve got plenty of gobbos to work on. I was thinking I would have painted my zombies and skeletons similar to what thedeadmonkys friend did, but a bit different. I was thinking of making each unit a bit different. Some zombies units were maybe dead Empire soldiers from different provinces. If your into conversions I think it would be pretty awesome to see an Empire Flagellant zombie with something still written on the parchment nailed to the bord things they carry.