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After picking up my Kaskrin Stormtoopers back in late march, I started painting them ever-so-slowly. From the very beginning I knew I was outclassed; Despite my simple paint scheme, I'd never painted metal before, and it was getting away from me. Add in I'd just started to paint figures anyway, and the bases were totally unknown to me, I was askin' for trouble.
Well, I'd paint one or two every couple weeks for a good month and a half before other things caught my interest, and finally, by May, I was just running a half-painted squad. Now that I've got all this extra time, I've painted the last five troopers! The bases aren't stellar, the detail isn't perfect, and I'm waiting on my washes to get here to put a final shading coat on 'em all, but, I'd like to think I can see a marked improvement in my ability, though its hard to tell with such a simple scheme!
First, though, before I show the picture, some disclaimers:
1. Apologies to all Germans and German speakers. I wanted a nice German name for my stormtrooper chimera, something to with a storm vehicle thingy. So, I ended up with something that was more or less "Storm Truck."
At least, I hope that's what it means!
2. Those with eyes and knowledge of events that date back to the ancient 20th century might recognize a particular marking on these guy's shoulder pads. I figured it'd make a good theme for these guys...especially since the casual destruction of millions or billions of lives is merely a 'meh' thing to the Imperium. Makes perfect sense these guys would wander back....
Apologies for Wobbly Camera, I really need to get a new one, but hey, this one's free and it gets the job done until the new one comes!
The Sergeant, special weapon guy, and the guy to the sergeant's right (our left) were three of the first figures I painted out of this set....the rest of the ones in the forefront, and to the right of the Sergeant are all freshly painted. Hopefully some improvement is evident...(and yes, I know I need to touch up that sergeant's base!)
Some of us were BORN in that "ancient" century, my friend!
Re: The paint job. I personally can't stand the Kasrkin models, but that's my problem, not yours. The paint job looks pretty good, though some up close photos might help us see things better. Also, consider a tripod or, if you don't have one, putting the camera on top of some books or something. Might help.
Re: the "symbol," I appreciate you saying that the symbol was just something that you thought would fit, and not necessarily an endorsement of a certain "ancient" regime, but with respect I think you're gonna run into some trouble with some players (not necessarily on LO, mind you) who will have trouble understanding that distinction. Just a thought.
Indeed, some of us were born then!
I understand that about the shoulderpads, which is why I like to put out a disclaimer beforehand! I generally don't want to offend people to the point where they start calling cops on me or anything...bad PR, dontchyaknow. And these guys won't be my only Stormtroopers, truth be told. That way, if anyone does seem to be twitchy about them, I can always sub in the other squad!
As for the camera...I need a new one, desperately. Setting it on something might help, but won't help nearly as much as, say...REPLACING it!! And I really need to get a closeup of sarge there...he keeps reminding me of that guy on the Tanker-ship in Waterworld.
Also, to help convince people I'm not a raving lunatic/person obsessed with dark-evil-things, I present my armored fist squad, Kiki's Ferret Shock Troopers! They fight with be-glittered pixie sticks and are followers of the Ferret Kiki!
Okay, so maybe I am a lunatic.....but I'm still not bad!
(By the way, Canew...fixt!)
Last edited by Zeewulf; August 9th, 2008 at 15:41.
That said, the models look pretty good. If you're interested in pursuing German stuff for your models in the future, and want to find appropriate things to say, there are Web sites out there, I'm sure, that can offer "slogans" in German, and their English equivalents, which are appropos.
I saw one guy with cyrillic (Russian) writing on the front of his tank. He said he got the decals from some old WWII tanks. They looked fantastic, except some of the sayings didn't quite fit. I speak a little Russian, and I could clearly read one tank, which said, "Death to Fascists!" Yeah, you could argue that SORT OF fits with 40k, but still, it was kinda funny.
Course, if you don't speak Russian, it just looked like cool foreign writing.
As a general rule, I don't really have any over-arching theme for my army; I run actual US Army style guidons, there's my ferret troopers, my stormtroopers are after their own theme, all my tanks/transports hull numbers are actual aircraft tail numbers that I've worked on (330, for example, was a Chinook with a horrid amount of engine trouble.), and I've got rednecks with beer and a cooler on a Basilisk named Bessie. I even have a Baneblade named Bun-Bun!
But overarching it all, its more of a 'modernish' military look, aside from little bit of humor or side themes here and there.
But I sure appreciate the suggestions!
Sehr gut, sehr gut mein Freund! (I get to practice my rusty german for this one.)They look very nice! And again, that's a good thing to have a disclaimer about the symbols on the shoulders. While it does suit with the name and function of the troopers, it's good that you give an explanation about why you're using them. Some people may still be offended, but make sure to just sit down and explain with them I guess.
Overall, they look very nice. I remember painting mine in a very "active" ubran camo motif, here's the sniper from the squad:
At first it was hard for me to paint them, but once you get rolling and have a feel for it, then it's sheer fun. Great work on them!
I really like the camo on that guy! If I wasn't actually more of a desert theme (aside from those stormtroopers, who CRIED for their own scheme), I'd go with something like that! In fact, for 2nd Battalion, I just might..or at least 3rd Platoon.....if I ever do that many!
Honestly, the use of the sigrunen was very highly debated. Before I went ahead with it, I sat down with a few friends and discussed it. We came to the conclusion that, as long as I made sure to explain the reasonings for it, I should be fine. Of course, if all else fails, I'll just blame John Ringo. I'd just finished reading "Watch On the Reihn!"
Thanks , I painted him a while ago before I started to become a believer of using "thin layers" in my painting. He was sold as a comission but I've kept all my records of him. I consider him a "breakthrough" model.
When I painted my cadians, I made the rest of the battlegroup to look like American G.I.'s. I even had the tanks look like that era with the Forgeworld Leman Russ named, "Bombshell Betty" and the support tank named "Big Sue". I'll look for pictures.
I had seen a thing a while back about uniforms that I could send to you if I could find it. It had a whole run down of uniforms from different eras, armies, utilities and what not. I'll look around for it for you.
Oh yes, Canew....The rest of the army is TOTALLY different.....all my tanks tend to be a desert theme, and my infantry look like this guy.
The red shoulderpad and base denote the squad he belongs to.
And red, if you find that for me, tha'd be awesome!
The next actual squad of stormtroopers, I'm snagging some Pig Iron heads from the war store and I'm gonna model them after ODSTs from Halo.
Last edited by Zeewulf; August 9th, 2008 at 20:00.