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I recently decided to convert an imperial guard arm to look like they came from a medieval world. For fluff reasons I wanted them to have bad relations/have been forgotten by the departmento munitorum and thus not have much big kit apart from a few chimeras and some out of date hardware (like heavy mortars and a Malcador).
The men have been pretty easy to make. I cut the arms off Bretonian men at arms (and archers, which ironically look better if they get the round men at arms hat) and stuck guardsmen's arms on (I thought I was been so clever... except everyone seems to have has that idea, oh well )
The rough riders were made mostly from imperial pistoleers with a few guardsmen bits.
The ratling were replaced by 'old poachers' made from empire militia with a few spare bits form my box (and a nail).
The command squad was easy enough and warhammer warrior priests make pretty good 40k priests (as do the monk bits form the bretonninan box)
This has all left me pondering a few points.
1) How do you even start to make a tank look pseudo medieval?
2) How is it best to make the heavy weapons? (cadian weapons mounted on an empire cannon chassis would look great, but would be soo expensive)
3) How do you replace the heavy weapon crew who are kneeling when Bretonnians all have that skirt look going on?
4) Lastly and most importantly, where should the balance be between the WFB bits and the 40k bits be. An empire flint lock pistol on a guardsman sarg looks good and is still obviously 40k. WFB men with 40k guns can start to look little unfocused. What do people think.
I'll start posting pics of my wip and if people are interested I'll post more as I go along
Okies well firstly I'll answer your questions.
1) Have a look at the empire steam tank for some insporation. I'd go for a steam type engine possibly. or something older and more rugged. Try to think of it as a tank that the medieval people have tried to fix. Perhaps some ornamentation Bret style, shields on the sides as extra armour (hmmmm might do that myself actually!) helmets on top of sponsons that style. Maybe even some timber bits on the tank may look good?
2) I used foundry Napoleonic gun chasis for my Napoleonic style lascannons so perhaps look there for some help? I would be tempted to make them look rather static like mini trebuchet style mounts (ie. A frames of wood.) that way they oculd be manned by stnading men. Alternatively hve them carrying weapons (ork weapons have a little more old style look that may help) if all else fails the high elves ahve some kneeling legs in one of their boxes that may be of use, they have cloth drapping too so may still fit in.
3) The best way I have found is to decide if it is a medieval army with IG bits or an IG army with WFB bits. For example my PDF have a medieval influence and so the command squads all have kettle hats. the line squads have a mix of helmets although some just have medieval equipment (sarge with flintlock etc). I also found picking armour for some figures is always a good start as well. Over all It's up to you but choose a base set and add bits from elsewhere ie. bret with IG bits or IG with bret bits.
So far it looks like you are going the WFB with IG bits route. This may be why you are having trouble with the tank idea. I'd have a little fluff think about this to decide where the officers are from the men are from and there exact equipments extent.
Hope that helps
Ahhh Commisarlestat you are a genius. A tank that medieval people have tried to fix works perfectly. Od course the chimera would not look like it had been made by medieval people, it would have come from a factory off world, but it would have been maintained and decorated by them. This would be especially true if, as my fluff dictates, they are right at the bottom of the list when it comes to resupply! Same principle as an ork 'fixing' an IG tank, just with less rivets and sheet iron and more wood!
I love the shield idea. Maybe a row of shields down the side of the chimera, like you said, maybe joined up with the chains that join up the defensive stakes from the archer set.
Wooden frames for the heavy weapons is a good idea, maybe made from the frame of a sprue!
Wonder what to do with thirsty or so armless cadians I'll have
I think I may leave my kasarkin as they are, party because if anyone in the army would have the few bits of modern armour the army is given it would be them, partly because lead would be hard to adapt, but mostly 'cos I've already painted them!
Thanks dude, you have given me some great ideas, got the brain cogs whirling. I'll go and take some more pics for posting. As always any comments are welcome!
First off apologies for the bad photos, I need to work on my lighting. Also this could become a bit picture heavy. Is this ok? Is there any chance an admin type could edit the title to include a warning? Thanks.
First off the Command Squad
left to right, the vox caster, the bombardier (grenade launcher) the Duke-Colonel (Heroic Senior Officer) his family surgeon (medic) and a veteran
Not convinced with the grenade launcher. Any tips?