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Anyone here do it? I'm buying yet another second hand army, and this one's got an old armorcast wolfhound painted by what looks like an armless retarded blind person. After i strip it, I was wondering if I could
a) make molds of it and cast more
use it as a basic model and sculpt more out of clay
c) use other scavenged materials and make more of the same general scale
Anybody have any experience with any of these options? How would I do it?
I'm not sure about A, it could actually be legal if you keep them yourself, but don't quote me :)
B and C will take quite a lot of work, but so will A unless you're used to casting, and you will get a legal and uniqe model if you build it yourself.
You could also
d) Convert the one you've got, superdetail it and so on. From what I can remember the armourcast stuff was a bit crude... :)
Can't say for sure wether you using them in "friendly" games will ahve anything to say... heck everyone can use the VDR rules right?
Although I really doubt you'll be able to use them in turnements.
Usually what I have experienced in turnements is that they don't allow superheavies... and by all means to VDR designed personal vehicles...
But I don't see anything wrong in you using them in your own private games...
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I think that that is a great idea as long as you don't violate copy right (or at least don't get caught andfor the casting it isn't that hard and once you have it made you could make tons and tons of
woulnd't that be awesome!!1
Heh you should stick it to those forgeworld pansies, get one of their titans, and pump those suckers out! We'll have a Warhammer 40K black market.
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For building titans I don't suggest the casting method.
Make it from polystyrene card (the base chassis) and do the fine work by adding extra bits to it.
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are you asn idiot? have you any idea of the size of a warhound titan...thin a dreadnought...times about 30...
you cannot cast something that big, at all, unless you have a very very large METAL cast and alot of expensive resin. iut isnt illegal to do it, seeing that the company who made it doesnt exist no more...but it is impossible to cast it...you cant even cast a dreadnought, let alone a titan...
Well, first of all: Forgeworld has taken over production of titans and GW still owns the copyright for every titan they've ever concieved of which includes all the epic models. The copyright for the old armourcast titans was, and is still, owned by GW too. It is therefore illegal to make copies... Well probably, I don't want to go into copyright law. It just gives you headaches :) It might be legal to make them privately and for non profit purposes.Originally posted by drozzy@Jul 12 2004, 08:40
iut isnt illegal to do it, seeing that the company who made it doesnt exist no more...
It's very possible to cast both titans and dreadnoughts, you just don't do it in one piece. Not even Forgeworld does that. Some parts will be pretty tough to make, such as the top carapace, but if you manage to break it down to smaller pieces then it should be possible without specialist equipment.
I'm not saying that it won't take a lot of work though...
It's completely legal to cast your own miniatures as long as you don't sell them as a Warhound Titan. Even if you did sell them, just call it a WarHunter Titan or a WarDog Titan, etc and have it look a bit different.
Granted no one would buy it, but you could do that legally. Don't get too caught up copywrite laws, GW seems to make people not post rules out of fear rather than actual legality (Since its perfectly legal to post rules in a discussion about a topic, yet they threaten websites apparantly with long legal words)
As I said, I don't want to go into copyright laws. It's legal to make a large bipedal robot of your own of course, that concept is to common to be claimed as GW's own. However, it is NOT legal to copy or make moulds off an existing model. But again that depends on the laws in your country, it might be legal to make one for yourself.