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Although I've been interested in the hobby for a long time now (I have about 8 years of White Dwarfs on my shelves), I've only recently started collect a 'properly painted' army; Warriors of Chaos. I've recently finished a unit of warriors and I started on these knights (minus riders) this morning:
They're not yet entirely finished, the hooves need painting, the horns, reins and trim need some more highlights and there's a few 'messy' parts, but they're nearly there.
Essentially I'm asking for any comments and criticisms on any aspect of them or my painting. I have read a vast amount of guides and have lurked on these forums for a while now so I've picked up quite a lot, but I feel like I'm struggling to apply much of it to my painting. Any general or specific advice on any techniques etc to use or to improve upon would be greatly appreciated, and hopefully I'll be able to put it into practice on these and the rest of the unit. Thanks in advance.
Finally, thanks to minus_t for his photography guide, I'm not really sure if I followed it properly or did it right, but they would have come out a lot worse without it I'm sure.
[If the picture quality is too poor to discern anything useful, please tell me and I'll give it another go!]
That's really great for a beginner! It would be much easier to see the horses if there was a bit more lighting (maybe snap the pictures near a few lamps, fitted with the proper daylight bulb). The horse with the skull helmet need some highlighting or shading on the skin, maybe you should try a wash or badab black and a light dusting of codex grey. The bone and metals look fantastic and could be left as they are (though you can definitely keep working them and make them look even better).
Good job, and keep up the good work!
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Thanks very much for the welcome and the advice!
I did pretty much as you suggested; washing with Badab Black then highlighting again with a light grey and it think it worked pretty well. Here's two more pictures taken with some extra light this time too.
Comments and criticism, however small, from anyone, still very much welcome!
Wow! These look great! I am in the process of (re)painting my Knights. Unfortunately, my knights are the old models that only came with lances, and I never did any conversion work that many years ago. Anyhow... back to your models. I can't wait to see the riders finished. Have you picked a color scheme for them? (rather, have you picked a God).
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Welcome to the hobby Kharne! Great work on your models so far, especially as a beginner. It's nice to see another chaos player; they're not daemons, but they're still chaos
Your metallics are excellent; you seem to have those down very well. As previously mentioned, try encorporating a little more light for your photos so we can see them and analyze them a little better. Aside from the painting aspect, photography is a huge part of the hobby but your photos are pretty good already!
My only suggestion would be to put either wait to glue the models to their bases or to take little bits of sprue "elevate" the minis on them so they're not swimming in the base material when you base them. It's all trial and error and you'll get the hang of it.
I think you are off to a solid start here. You are undercoating, basecoating neatly, washing effectively and now starting on building highlights. I would suggest that you paint all models up to the wash stage. Models look good enough at this point to be used and they can be easily improved as you gain ability with the brush.
I would suggest painting and individual model, preferably a metal one so you can start over and over again easily. Undercoat, basecoat and wash and then practice building highlights. You will have read about this. The first highlight after a wash is actually a restrained basecoat, you simply replace the netural base colour leaving the wash as shade in the recesses. How much recess to leave is something that you have to learn by doing rather than reading.
Once you are happy with your first stage highlight you can move on to proper highlighting. You simply paint a smaller area that that which you re-basecoated with a lighter shade. Again there is a trick to this that simply takes practice to pick up. Try to be a little more bold than you think you need to be as you will probably want to limit yourself to one or two layers of highlighting.
When you have mastered the art of working out how bold and how to where to highlight your test model you will be ready to roll out the technique across your already good looking army.
At that point you can start looking at things like stippling, blending, nmm, etc which will allow you to hone your ability still further.
Most importantly I want to stress that you have the most important ability down already. Neatness. So much depends on your ability to paint the parts of the model you want to paint and to use paint at a proper consistency. It looks like you have this figured out already. Go forth and prosper!
Thanks very much for the really detailed responses and advice, it's given me loads to think about and work on for the rest of the unit and my slowly growing army as a whole.
And thanks Zarahemna for the advice on highlighting and building up highlights. I totally understand your point about it being a learning process and will definitely take the time to practice what you suggested, consistency in my ability to judge boldness and what colours will look like, I feel is one of the things I lack.
Thanks again for all the compliments and advice, I know it's going to be a great help to me.