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So I recently got my hands on some chaos marines to start a new army. Yay for me . What I need the most is a good HQ. I have the terminator lord kit, but the terminator lord doesn't seem like the kind of HQ I'm going to use all the time.
So, my plan is to do a sorcerer, but I'm kind of a cheapskate. Therefore, I have decided to make my own sorcerer using bits of marines and the lord sprue. It all seems pretty doable, but the only thing that would be missing are some robes on him. Now, I already have the green stuff but I don't really know much about using it. I've only used it to reposition the parts on nid models, so I haven't done any actual sculpting yet.
I've tried searching around for a guide on doing robes, and I've found some things that are pretty close, but not quite what I'm looking for. The best I've found is a guide to doing black templar style robes on www.bolterandchainsword.com, but I'm looking to do the kind of skirt thing the sorcerer models tend to sport.
So does anyone know of a guide for this kind of thing, or would be willing to give me some tips for some good looking robes.
I know a way you can do rags, not exactly robes or perhaps raggedy-robes. Use some tissue paper and cut it into the shape you want. This can then be soaked with PVA glue which has been mixed with water. The wet tissue is then put onto the model in the position you want. Use the end of a cocktail stick or a brush to move it into the position you want. Don't worry if you rip the first try or it isn't the right size, you can start again because the materials are so cheap.
Once the tissue paper dries on the model it will be more or less robes or perhaps rather tatty robes. The rougher look comes from the tissue paper being rougher than smoothed out green stuff. You can try to use the raggy-robes a a sort of skeleton for making smoother robes. Putty can be smoothed over the surface of the robes once they are dry. I would suggest milliput as green stuff is too inflexible for that. You could also try to apply a coat of PVA which has no water in it. If this is applied after the robes are dry it may help to provide a smoother surface.
It's a bit different to work in GS compared to many other sculpting materials, but you can easily make good looking robes for your sorcerer.
What you need is just a bit of patience...oh and GS of course
THe first part will make your model look quite uggly, but don't get frightened by it. Once it has cured you get to do the second part which will make it look good.
Day1 : After adding the torso to the legs and cleaned of any moldlines you get your GS and cut a quite small pice off. Maybe say...two, three- four millimeters.
Then you pinch of a piece to roll into a cone-shaped saussage. Place it between the legs of the mini, pointy side up, wide side down.
You should remake this three.four times, so your mini has three-four cones between his legs. Gently shape them into a rough shape of the lower robe. Remember not to use to big cones, if it feels like they are too big, then take them of and make smaller ones instead of trying to poke them into place.
If you press on one side of the uncured GS it will bulge out somewhere else.
Then when you have a lightly to small and very rough shape of the desired robe, leave the model until next day. Greenstuff requires patience see...
wait a bit more
one day later:
Day2: Mix some more GS up. Not as much as yesterday.
Look at your mini, are you satisfied with the general shape of the robe? If not you can always use a knife (a very sharp one) to cut some of the GS away.
Next step would be to make a big flat, very thin sheet of GS. Make sure the area you're working on is wet (or moist at least) and the same goes for whatever you use to roll it out, a thick pen would work fine for this.
Once you have a big, flat piece of GS, let it cure for something like 20 minutes, then make sure your sculptingtool/ knife is wet (really wet this time) and cut out a squarish shape, slightly thinner at the top...maybe like a triangle without a top if you get what I mean. Pick it up carefully in order not to disform it, wrap it around the legs of your mini (shortest edge up).
Then all you have to do is to sculpt it into shape using your sculptingtool, the cured cones of GS from yesterday will make it far easier as you get a solid basefor your new GS.
Hope it helps, if not I might be able to supply pics of some sort as words are inferior in situations like this
I have always just goe for a sheet of GS.
Cut out an appropriately sized oblong. Don't make the GS too thin, look at other robes for reference, thin robes will look out of place unless you are laying them over other parts of the model.
Leave it to cure for 15-20 minutes. (Make two or three so you can go back for another if you screw up.)
Position the robe on the model and pinch it up to look like creased robes.
If you want to make a cape type robe then make a semi circle so you have plenty of extra sheeting to model those billowing folds with.
Wow, these are some great replies. Thanks a lot. It definatly gives me something to go on.
What about instead of tissue paper you use a really light cloth soaked in pva glue? It would increase the durability of a cape and take a design on the cloth alot better, as I have found tissue paper sucks up any and all color like, well, tissue paper. Otherwise, good luck with your project!
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