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Hi guys i could you your help and i have a few questions for you.
Im starting my first serious army which would be a green tide ork horde army but im already thinking ahead to my next.
Russian red army Space marine city fighters. I've always been utterly facinated by the 1941 german invation of russia. Some of the fircest fighting to take place during the second world war took place on russian soil. 3 million german soldiers, 3000 tanks, 2500 aircraft and 7000 artillery pieces invaded across miles of russian border. Hitler demanded maximum cruelty against russian civilians and in doing so had the entire russian nation rise up against them.
stalingrad in paticular is the area i want to base the army on. everything you have read about in citys of death or city fight could be taken directly from the fierce street to street, building to building and room to room fighting happend every hour of every day during the battle of stalingrad.
Gah im starting to ramble. Basicaly what im saying is this space marine army i want to be everything these bave fanatic russian soldiers were. Hard bitten, gruff, city fighting vetrans. fluffy hat, trench coat wearing loonies XD.
Unfortunatly im nowhere near confident enough in my modeling abilites to do this myself. Help from you lovely people i hope to get this army up an running after my orks are finised with. Also if anyone knows a good website that has tutorials for hand painted banners cause it just wouldnt be a russian red army without the big red flag waving the hammer and sickle but ofcorse with the added extra of the imperial eagle.
Cheers and sorry bout the ramble.
Just wondering, if you like the 'Russian' feel, why not look at Vostoryans instead?
If you want a marine chaper as such, for the hats, you could lop off some vostoryan heads, and affix them with some GS.
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Agreed. Unless you want to do some kind of post-apocalyptic future Russian soldier look. If going for that I'd personally take ideas from both STALKER and Fallout 3.
What about capturing the essence of the russians at that time? Very stripped down and desperate. I would remove all fancy iconography(chest aquilas, purity seals, etc) and take off all their helmets, giving them different heads from other ranges, just to humanize the force more. Mod some flamers into chunky crazy contraptions, and bulk out some heavy bolters. Good luck with your conversions, it sounds like a fun and difficult one!!!
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However in the interim have you thought about using some "do it yourself" or general purpose transfers.
If you can get the paper to print your own transfers then getting the Red Star or Hammer and Sickle would be as easy as cutting and pasting you preferred image off the web and a little work with MS Paint or any other drawing package you may have at hand. You could also generate your own slogans in Cyrillic or script using the fonts in Windows.
If you can't get the printing paper you could still set up your flag etc quite easily using a combination of WWII Soviet Tank / Troop transfers - some of which I'm sure you could use on your other AFV's intermixed with say some of the generic slogan transfers you can get from Forge World.
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I would second the Space Wolves. They are coming out with a new codex sometime this year (I believe), so if you can wait a bit, and it sounds like you can, you'll have a nice new codex to try out and probably some cool new models to go with it. Also, assuming they keep the Leman Russ tank in their arsenal, those could, depending on how many the codex allowed, make for a nice armoured division that is very Russian, though the tanks would look more WWI than WWII.
Barring all that, I'd say your best choice would be to explore other manufacturers for heads. I recommend Pig Iron miniatures, as they have a wide range that's pretty compatible, at least with IG parts anyway. Even helmeted, gas mask-equipped heads will lend a very unique look to your marines.
Another thing to consider is modeling and painting. There are some great basing kits out there to give you some cool rubble and debris. If you want a cheaper solution, you can experiment with various plasticard, plastirod, plastitube, green stuff and other items cut up and assembled in such a way to suggest city rubble. A while back I found a tiny "I-beam" piece of plastic at a game store that I bought for maybe $1 US at the most, and it's like three feet long. That's gonna be fun to use in bases.
Regarding painting, take the opportunity while doing your Orks to refine your weathering techniques. Get good at aging, glazing, and washing parts to figure out the best way to make things look dirty or rusty. Also, learn how to paint chips, holes and gouges. Some well-placed battle damage will go a long way toward conveying that "gritty" feel you're going for.
Good luck, and post pics!
wow i didnt expect such a high response to this XD.
By the time i finish with my ork army i hope the new space wolf models and dex will be out. I havnt yet bought myself the new sm codex so i havnt been able to take a peak at the new traits or special characters.
I was planing on building my technique on chips, dents and weather beaten damage while finishing my ork army, thanks for backing me up on that one canew. I was also planing on filing off any iconoraphy and painting the bolters and any other weaponry with a wooden feel, wooden stocks, handels ect. Removing the imperial icons on their armor will work with a two fold effect, first being making the models look plain and unadorned and second being that through fluff im planing on eventualy making them turn renegde (chapter gets fed up under the facist rule of the emperium, brakes away and forges their own little empire for the people!)
Im hoping alot of my spair part from the ork bits and bobs will help me with weaponry, slugas and shootas aswell as choppas' look very low tech and beaten.
Keep up the help guys this is brilliant.