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I bought a couple of cans of black primer, like the guy at my local hobby store said to, along with blood red primer spray. I'm painting A LOT of blood angels, (probably like 100, since I'm doing it for a few people's armies) and I did about 90 of them black, left two or three unprimed, and had like 5 or 6 primed white. Everything, marines, tanks, dreadnoughts... everything came out orange. They dry a little redder, but it seems like the primers don't make much of a difference. Is there an inexpensive, easy way of making them match the redder, pre-existing BA marines, or is this going to be expensive and messy? I'd rather not strip them all, or buy a bajillion bottles of gore red. Please help!
seems asif the can was defective........|
Donuts, is there anything they cant do??
more like the 4 cans... doesn't matter. They look red enough.
First off, black is prolly the worst color you can prime any thing that not going to be metal, black, or grey. Every marine chapter should be primes white except black templar and dark angels it seems, cause they all have light colored armor, as in it's not dark like chaos'y. Seems like every one has this problem... he's how to make blood angels red. You can use the same tactic for ultra marines, crimson fists, and any one else who has a basic one color armor.
1. Prime white
2. Spray blood red *decent coat, if you miss spots no big deal*
3. Ink red *4 or 5 coats, one at a time (wait for the 1st coats to dry before putting another on) other wise you don't get the right shadding in the cracks of the armor*
4. Detail *bolters, eyes, etc.*
5. Ink the bolter and eyes black *be very careful with the eyes cause they're so small*
6. Write on the seals *get a felt tip pen and write squigglys on the purity seals as if some one wrote a story on them*
7. Base them
8. Dance around like a monkey cause your done ^_^
if you do this they should turn out bad ass red... not orange... my blood angels are in the gallary so you can take a look at them if you need pointers... it;s the Winged guy (sanguinary Priest) and the pictures around him. I also did the blood angels sarg. with the lighting claws and the blood angels emperors champion. Well off I go to work on my librarian ^_^
Tomb Kings, Marines, Eldar
Thanks a lot zora blade, but the thing is, they're already primed red. I'm just going to paint them in the clay-red color they came out in.
If they're already primed/painted red, but are too orange, you might try a glaze on them to tone it down and make them deeper red. Mix one part black ink to one part red ink and completely paint the mini with it. You want a relatively thin coat, but cover everything. Don't worry about getting it alol over parts that will be painted later (bolter, etc), just focus on complete coverage. Don't put it on so heavy you get drips.
To help the ink flow, mix in some flow enhancer, or add some clear acrylic liquid floor wax. The commercial stuff in the multi-gallon jugs is the best. If you know someone with access to a cleaning/floor crew you can load up with a jar full for free. If you can't get that then buy some Future floor wax in the local grocery. Don't thin the ink with a bunch of water or it will puddle up. Water's surface tension is too high to work well. You can use alcohol to thin it. You'll get a much better flow (be carefull the first time, it REALLY flows better than water).
I actually used Magic Wash black to darken some Dark Angels who were too light. Magic was can be ordered on line, but it is essentially commercial floor wax and ink. They make some good mixes so I buy it, but you might need a lot more than a single bottle.
As far as primer, black or white is fine. Some people swear by white, other's by black, and there's a fringe grey primer crowd out there. White may cause orange tinted reds to look more orange, but is easier to paint true reds over. Black starts out with built in shadows, and helps cover any missed spots in the recesses. Its harder to cover with red, but can be done.
You can get a good red over black:
Thank you so much, wolfraider. I'm going to do exactly that. Do you think I could use delta ceramicoat red and thin it with something to make the ink? I have about 35 troops, three bikes, 2 dreads, two land raiders, and a predator that I have to paint, and my lazy idiot friend wants them to match a pre-existing army of about the same size and composition, so I don't want to have to buy a dozen bottles of ink, and I'd like to do it fast.
At any rate, it's nice to know that I can still salvage these minis. Thanks for the help.
Thinned paint is not ink. Ink has much more intense pigments in a much thinner medium. You can use thinned paint, but it will take many more coats and won't look very good. Also, when you thin paint that much it looses all it's adhesive qualities. It will rub off when handled.
If you don't want to buy a bunch in GW inks, just go to the local arts and crafts store (michaels, hobby lobby, etc) and but some permanent inks. There are several brands, but you should get all the same brand to ensure mixing compatability. Most brands will mix with each other, but until you try it you don't know for sure. Dr. Ph. Martins is one brand I like, and they also have liquid acrylics, which are much like ink.