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Well, I suspect I am not using the foundation paints properly or simply don't get them.. I thought the idea was higher pigment level so they need less coats to paint on as a base coat. Problem is straight from the bottle they seem too thick to paint right on a model, it would obscure detail. But if you water them down a bit they don't cover any better than normal paints because it dilutes the pigment..... Am I missing something??
Though I only do have one at the moment, and that is macharius solar orange..
well its always important to thin your paint, I have no experience of this particular brand. But what I can say is that orange always covers bad. You cant cover black with orange and expect it to look good. Are you trying to cover white or a light brown then it will work but you will need more than one layer. This will always be true, it dosent matter what brand you are using. And I believe that all colours need more than one layers to look good, or it will look messy. Have you compared this particular orange to GW orange? It is possible that it will cover better than GW, but I don't know.
Keep the paint diluted and thin :)
(first rule in Zentradis book of painting)
Just like any paint, you need to find the 'sweet spot' of thinning.
Foundations do have very good coverage, but you will normally need 2-3 coats to get a totally flat finish, especially on the brighter colours.
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Several thin coats gives a much smoother finish anyways.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against doing several thin coats, that is how I am used to painting. But if that is how the foundations work, then how do they differ from the normal paints? Both need several thin coats before they will work..
its basicly a diferance of 2 coats of orange over black, or 5 with the standard.
You coudl also try using the danab stone color as teh first layer, then use the orange. The lighter color will make it easyer to get a nice flat orange.
foundations have defanetly made painting a bit quicker for me.
I thought the point of the foundation paints was to lay down the foundation of your paint scheme.
One coat over black will generally do that because you are simply laying the basecoat. It matters less if the coverage is not complete because it is just the basis for the rest of the paint work.
e.g macharius orange > fiery orange, mechrite red > blood red, mordian blue > ultramarine blue etc etc
If you are using it as the only colour then maybe you'll have problems because they look flat, but I thought the point was that you could jump colours quicker than previously (e.g needing 5 coats of scab red to cover black to lead up to blood red. now you can mechrite red as a basecoat and work from there)
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I know this will cause disgust with many people.. but as an experiment i have tried the foundation paints straight out of the pot onto bare metal, plastic and resin just to see what happened
Personally, i don't think they obscure detail at all, and infact i actually like this as a method of undercoating multi coloured models. especially when i will be using strongly contrasting colours. There's nothing worse than black / white undercoating and then having to go over so that basecoats look right. I find that especially true with black undercoat which then requires a bright red or yellow area.
I actually adopted the Army Painter method of doing plaguebearers with the foundation paints and washes.. the results (IMHO) were really good and very quick.. Starting with Malachite Red then heavily drybrush (i call wetbrushing) with Deneb Stone.. Dry and then add Devlan Mud or Greytone Sepia and add detailing.
I do make a point of washing all minatures prior to painting so everything stuck and i used a large brush with small amounts of paint to maximize coverage. but all in all i'm fairly happy with the results that i was getting
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