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Hey guys, after painting black and white for so many years i want to do something different im just about finished painting my Grey Knights and i want to start on something new.
However i still want to use the BT Codex and units but with a new color, Ive never really asked about the rule of painting a chapter a different color to what they are meant to be so is it actually allowed or do i have to create a sub-chapter.
Also any idea's on what color they will be?, im looking at a jungle/tropical theme so what paints would be good to use for that. Plus any reference pics would be appreciated.
Last edited by MrBruce; May 12th, 2009 at 08:28.
well if you are thinking of a jungle tropical theme, then obvious choices are deep greens and browns..
As for changing the colors...
You can always rename a chapter thus making your own, and use the BT codex as the backbone... You may need to change a few things about them though....
ie. remove one of the bonuses that BT get, and replace it with an equal one of a different chapter.. Showing a divergence..
My only real color change that I use with my BT is that I use Red and Greys for their tabbards as opposed to white.. The only white you see on mine are the shoulder pads of my initiates and assault initiates.
The grey Tabbards as opposed to the bleached bone symbolize a different company of the same chapter.. The red belong to the elite.
Sounds good i was looking at the Raptors Theme but units made up of Dark Angels and Black Templar bits, using the Black Templar Insignia and Logo's and change one of the BT Bonuses with a DA Bonus.
A New Chapter sounds like the best way to go. Using the BT codex as the backbone (like you said) but now i need a name lol.
Background would be a Space marine chapter shrouded in mystery that operates best in deep jungles and forests.
Smiler to the Imperial Guard's Catachans.
Last edited by MrBruce; May 12th, 2009 at 09:11.
Cool idea for a jungle scheme. The obvious route then is to go for realistic military colours. Undoubtably that will look very good on SM equipment. First hurdle to cross would be to decide weather to go for camouflage or not. If you go for camouflage, I'd suggest to stay away from the classical 'curvy bands' camo as that's been done before and looks a bit cliche to me when I see it.
Some suggestions, might be hard to implement though but could look fresh and new is to go for what they call Digital Camouflage. Some examples.
Roggenwolf™ next generation digital camouflage™
This might actually be easier to do that it looks but it would still consume a lot of time.
A nicely chosen even base colour might also go a long way. I strongly, strongly suggest to go for paints from Vallejo as they're great to work with, easily matching, even surpassing GW's paints, prices are usually cheap too ànd they have a very large range of colours, ranging from GW-clones to true military shades. They're also readily available worldwide. Acrylicos Vallejo
What country do you live? I have been ordering new materials online over the last few months and found a few great web-shops who are cheap and efficient. I'm sure I can direct you to some good spots. Of course, if you have a well-stocked hobby store nearby that might be handier but I've become a big fan of buying materials online.
Thanks mate for the help will mess around with some digital colors on Photoshop tonight i live in Australia and the only model shop i have near me is in fact a GW so the internet is normally where i go.
Thanks for the help again mate
Sadly I have no idea about good webshops that are of good quality downunder but I found that any local ebay site is a treasure trove too. Lots of hobby webshops on there with 'buy now' options with sweet, sweet prices. Two other little vallejo products that are worth stocking up in is the thinner (best buy a few pots as this is great to enhance the consistency of any paint mix) and the paint retarter. Just a drop of the gel-line substance in your paint will keep it from drying out in too short a time. great for when you're highlighting or doing any other time-consuming paint job that risks drying out your mix.
- To Meph
Thanks mate ill defiantly go look for those now. All i need to do now is think of a chapter name for my new space marines.
and ill be set to start planning (after i finish my last Grey knight though)
Cool, I'll be curious to see your plan come to fruition. In case you need any other advice, tips or feedback, don't hesitate mate. I've been dabbing around in miniature paints for 20-odd years now and the last few months I've been brushing up (pun not intended)on some advanced painting and weathering techniques and - materials.
Hmmm... chapter names ey... always fun hmmm jungle-->camouflage-->hit&run tactics--->stealth, to be mixed with perhaps a chivalry/crusade influence from the originating chapter...
Knights of Teuton (Teutonic Knights, to stay close to the knights-hospitaler incluences for the Black Templars)
I will thanks bud.
Those are some good names as well,
I like Knights of the Teuton but im thinking of a slight variation on it like Knights of the Shield gives a slight mysterious feel to it. So im going to go and build on this idea.
Will post my first Marine and Background later on in the week hopefully.
Would it be worth avoiding the jungle and concentrating on the forest side of the theme. Since Black Templars, and presumably their successors and anyone using their parts would have a heavy teutonic, germanic knight theme, i may be worth sticking to the sort of terrain that was around in central europe in the medieval period? Conjures up thoughts of a secluded keep deep in the black forest, or the Teutoburg Forest.
You could call them Knights Teuton like Meph said, then name their home world after a germanic forest (wikipedia has some suggestions Category:Forests and woodlands of Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia).
I'd suggest against the overtly modern camouflage patters, instead just going for block dark earthy colours.
Scouts themed after robin hood would probably be pushing it...