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I have had alot of trouble painting with red in the past mostly it won't flow properly on black primer and the paint will clump together, i have solved this problem by putting a layer of skull white then red, but when i read how to paints' it doesn't say use white.
I am wondering if anyone could give me tips on how to use red effectively without a white layer apllied first, do i need to water my red down alot? i am going to be painting my captains cape and i want to have a solid red basecoat without having to apply white first,
all tips and suggestions welcome!!
Hello, me myself have had this probelm buts its real easy to get past it. Gamesworkshop sells foundations paints(think what they called). These paintes are more dense so 1 go should be enough. So pick up the red( believe it callled mechrite red but not to sure as i dont really care on names of paints. Then you start painting from red. This red is also pretty dark so is good for the darkest creases and youll only need to build up from there. I usually build up from blood red and add small mixtures of orange until i reach orange. Then add some yellow to orange for final high light. That what i usually do.
I got some advice on this forum a while ago which i will now summarise and pass on:
Mechrite Red basecoat and/or Vallejo reds.
Vallejo make great paints, they come in dropper bottles so theres no waste, they have great coverage and I find that a blob or two of Vallejo if watered down enough will keep you painting for ages.
For my Word Bearers, I use a coat or two of Mechrite Red with a little water, then a coat or two of 2:1 of the Vallejo equivalent of Red Gore and Blood Red, which gives a nice deep red in my opinion.
I'd have to agree - Merchrite Red is very helpful in making your reds turn out well. Another option, if you don't have access to Merchrite Red, is to start with a dark brown color and work up through some layers towards the red you want.
Red can be a tricky color so just remember to thin your paints with a little water first and anticipate having to do a few extra layers to get a smooth coat.
I used Reaper Paints... Clotted Red > Carnage Red > Games Workshop Blood Red.
Thin the Clotted Red down to an almost milky consistency, and apply a few even coats.. From there wait a little bit and apply Carnage Red while the Clotted is still a bit moist... (Helped me with the blending) Then use the Blood red thinly pulling it thicker towards the edges.
This is how my capes have turned out looking like it does on my BT Emperors Champion that I posted. All over Black..
The black primer shouldn't cause any of the problems you are having with clumping.. That just sounds like bad paint Afterall, the black primer is dry when you are painting the red right? So it shouldn't be mixing into the red.
It may be that the white primer dries sooner than the black? Either way.. always make sure that your primer is completely dry.
The Vallejo Model Colour 'Black red' is a godsend. It's very dark, kinda brown-ish, and covers perfectly over black. It makes a perfect basecoat for other red paints, such as GW's 'Red gore' or 'Scab red'.
As others have said, using a dark red first or using the GW foundations are a good plan. I'd like to offer another alternative - brown. I have found brown to be a very effective base for reds, and can be used in shading as well. I'd do a mix of bestial brown and the red of your choice. It looks odd, but will add a base for your reds to go over effectively.
Thanks everyone for all your advice, i am probably going to pick up some Mechrite Red and go from there
Thanks for the advice
it also depends on if you want a dark or bright red. if dark is preferred do as the other say, but if you want brighter, start with the white undercoat.
Keep the paint diluted and thin :)
(first rule in Zentradis book of painting)