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I live in Michigan and the cold times are almost upon me. It will be cold from now until May of next year so, I figure it'll be best to find ways to paint in colder climates.
One thing I have noticed so far since summer has ended and its gotten colder is that my Citadel paints have become VERY thick. The temperature is probably 10 degrees cooler in my house now than it used to be.
Also on a side note: I started storing my pots upside down to see the colors easier around the same time it got colder so, I'm not sure which could be the cause of my paint problem. Is it bad for the paint to store the pots upside down?
Does cold dry out paint or just "slow it down"? Is my paint ruined? Will it need lots of thinning in order to use now? Is it possible to simply warm it up to return it to it's former glory? I'd been holding a pot in my hands for the past 30 minutes or so, we'll see if that improves it at all.
Are there any problems that will arise while painting in a colder enviroment?
What's the best way to prime in a colder climate?
Any other tips for modeling and painting in cold areas?
Last edited by Kelter Skelter; October 3rd, 2009 at 11:48.
I live in sweden so I too get quite cold weather, I have a few paint pots that have survived storage in a cold storage room for two winters (it probably got down to about 10 degrees celsius) and they are still just fine.
I have one paint pot of codex grey that is probably about 5 years old, I found it a month ago and opened it up and it was pretty much completely solid.
I got a small screwdriver and poured some water into it and managed to stir it down to a chunky half-liquid, I added some more water, shaked it abit and left it for a few days.
The next time I opened it I added some more water and stirred, all chunks were now gone but the paint had a slightly grainy consistency. I added even more water, shaked it and the paint is now actually usable again, albeit not good enough that I'd use it to basecoat a tank, but it serves fine for drybrushing bases.
I seems these paints don't really ruin easily.
The only thing I have some problems with is spray priming which I usually do outdoors, I can use the garage most of the time, but between december and february even the garage is too cold so I just do it indoors
Last edited by yorii; October 3rd, 2009 at 13:33.
I warmed the pot in my hands for about 2 hours (2 episodes of star trek or so) and it appears to be in good shape or at least much better than it used to be.
I'm convinced there is a better way to warm them. Perhaps putting them in a plastic bag then submerged in hot water or putting one of those warming pads in the microwave then laying it on top of my pots prior to painting.
I really won't be able to prime indoors so my garage is still my only option. What exactly causes problems when priming in extreme temperatures? The primer being cold? The cold effecting the drying?
GW paints do go solid after a time. You are best just opening them as said above, adding water and stiring.
You could buy a office heater and set that up near your paint station. It will keep your paints and legs warm!
Problems with external conditions and priming are annoying. I live in Derbyshire England, its not too far north, and not ever so cold, but my models frequently 'bloom' outside, even this summer! Yorii is right about cold conditions, when the spray leaves the can it looses heat energy anyway, so when it hits the cold air some particles will dry before reaching the object. Blooming occurs when the paint drys at different speeds due to temperature changes, thats why you are advised not to spray somthing and move it in less than an hour.
It might be a good idea to spray as many models as possible now before the real cold sets in, otherwise Id brush primer all the way. I will be spraying at my friends 'fume cupboard' (Smelly cupboard in his spare room!) or brushing all winter.
Arg, that's such a bummer. I was hoping since I store everything inside it wont be a problem when I prime in the garage but if it's the drying at colder temperatures that causes problems then I'm SOL.
I prime in a box in the garage what if I aim the space heater at the box while it's drying? (Assuming I've already taken precautions to avoid fumes igniting)
Also another idea:
Are paint spray fumes harmful to anything other than breathing(such as upholstry, wallpaper, paint, carpet, etc.)?
What if I were to prime in my box in the garage then bring them in and leave them in a spare room to dry?
I'm just really trying to avoid brush-on primer.
Failing that what are some good brush-on primers? Also, if you're aware of it, is that primer just as easy to strip with simple green/super clean as most spray primers are?
Hi! The problem with spraypaint fumes is that the particles of paint can stick to different things in the house (thats why you also do it outdoors). Personally I occaisonaly spray in the house and just seal up the box with plastic wrap, and leave little air hole so it doesn't take 4 hours to dry . Another thing is I got a can of white yesterday, it was krylon shortcuts, (model paint) and when I sprayed it it came out in little dots that went on the figure and it left a slightly textured surface. I then shook it and sprayed it again and i had the same problem. After reading this thread i'm starting to think that it was the cold yesterday that made my spray paint bad and not the classic excuse of "it was a bad can".
Last edited by Typhus the Herald; October 4th, 2009 at 15:05. Reason: forgot some stuff