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This is my first attempt at painting marines and they are Blood Angels successors. I'm just testing paint on sprues for right now and it doesn't seem to be going well. I just based it in black by hand and then used Red Gore (since I want a dark color, not Blood Red). Below are some crappy pictures and I'm sorry, but I took like 10 pics but only 1 was all the way focused in and I can't get any more like that for the life of me.
Anyway, it's like the paint streaks and pools up. The below pics are after 3 coats, and it still streaks and can see all the black. It's like the paint is left behind in the layout of the bristles, like in lines. Is it the brush, is it too wet? I'm getting the foundation paint set soon, but I figured this should still sort of work w/o much trouble, but not so far. Thanks!
I find it very difficult to get a good coverage with red gore. You're better off waiting for the foundation and mixing that in. Red gore is one of the few paints that will need little to no water, especially with a new pot.
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Yeah, if you watered the paint down, you may have used too much.
Certain paints can have a difficult time as base coats on black, though. While the Foundations will help solve that problem, if you don't use them, or want to get started before you get them, you may want to experiment with using other colors you have as base coats. For instance, I find a reddish brown is a much better base for red layers than starting on black.
Keep in mind, two thin layers of one color can also give solid coverage.
prime them white or basecoat in mechrite red
black is impossible to cover with red
Instead of using Red Gore straight on top of Black, you need to 'build up' to it. Foundation paints would be good, but otherwise you can try using one of the browns. Dark colours like brown cover very well because the pigment is so strong.
On black, do like a 1:1 Brown/Black, then 1:1 Brown/Red Gore, 1:2 Brown/Red Gore then Red Gore. It'll take time, try to make sure there isn't too much paint on the brush. This is what foundation paints are for
Hmm, sounds like I'll need some intermediate steps here. I'll try to hurry up and get that foundation set ordered.
My other painting issue that comes along with these streaks is that I pull paint right from the pot (Citadel paints) put it to the model and it bubbles up like it's watery/frothy. Sometimes I will spread out the paint on bare plastic and then it sort of shrinks back to the center unless i keep pulling it out. I normally water my brush so it isn't stiff, but dab it on a paper town first to take out the water. Not sure what's wrong there. :-\ Is this an affect of maybe an oily sprue, from the molding process?
Both of these are made to stick to plastic and metal and provide a good base to build up colour from. A black undercoat will make the overall appearance of the model darker and helps a lot with shading (as you build up to lighter colours from the recesses, rather than into them). White undercoats are usually reserved for 'lighter' models such as Bone, Yellow, etc.
Don't waste your money on the foundation set.
You'll only need certain colors if you're planning a certain army around a certain color scheme. Plus, unlike the washes not all of the founations are good/usefull.
Well I was painting on the black this time so i didn't have to break out the spray paint for just a little piece of sprue for testing. When I start mass producing marines I'll definitely be spraying the basecoat. The decision now is to go with black and do lots of layering up and mixing of reds and browns (and foundation), or if white/gray to red gore to simplify the process?
I like the colors achieved here: YouTube - Step by step Blood Angel Commander Part 3 and here: The Blood Angels Showcase - The Bolter and Chainsword : A 40k Space Marine Resource
But I don't know their exact processes.