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I'd like to paint my imperial guard in a desert theme or camo, not nesseceraly too realistic, but i can't get it nailed just right.
I work with vallejo mostly, and as a base i take iraqi sand over a white primer. i tried with several variations of brown, like us tan earth and such but it doesn't really get me a satisfactory look. No combination nor style.
Style in the sense of making blotches, stripes, patches or so.
Does any of you have suggestions for a color combination and pattern, that is easely mass produced ( we are talking about IG after all) on man and machine?
About the UM flag, I play UM marines too, and i'd like to field them as an UM pdf.
As a joke i obtained a set of cyberdogs too as regiments mascots. for the Desert Dogs.
I have to admit to some curiosity on this topic, too, as I plan to paint up some IG in desert style sometime.
There are quite a few combinations on GW's Web site, some of which are desert themed. As usual, especially if you're doing "horde" IG (lots of platoons) I'd steer clear of any intricate camouflage. While realistic, I fear for your sanity painting that on all of those models. Instead, I'd go with a two-toned "earth tones" scheme.
If I ever do it, I think I'm going to go with a very light tan/khaki color on the helmet, carapace, gun and shin guards. Some form of bone color would be appropriate, a la Deathwing terminators. Do some Google-Fu to find lots of "recipes" for painting that.
A darker tan would work on the fatigues. I wouldn't go TOO dark, like Scorched Brown or anything, but maybe a desert yellow or some of the other "mid-tone" browns. Really anything between "chocolate brown" and the bone you're shooting for with the carapace, and you're good. Slap on some boltgun metal, and you're good to go. Wash everything with GW's Devlan Mud (if you buy no other GW products, buy this!), then highlight with the basecoat color mixed with bone, or in the case of the carapace, mix with white.
That'll be MY way to do it, when/if I ever get around to it, anyway.
Maybe you could try to add some dust and sand effects to the lower areas of your vehicles. Often when I see pics of tanks in the desert they are covered in dust, especially at the bottom. That may help to give people the idea they are desert tanks and not just yellow/brown tanks.
i did try that, with iraqi sand as a base and pale sand and fine stripes of tan earth, like a real army has, but it doesn't give me a satistfactory look. the colors made a nice shade, but imo it was a bit to effective, as you would loose one man amongst the masses.. i can show you a photo of him.
also with a variant with light gray carapace, but that one also gave a bad result.
i would like to stay away from the classic green, or boring grays.
About the deathwing, my recepy would be desert yellow covered with bleeched bone.
The matter is that either the pallet is very closely related in color, or suddenly very different, in the way that the darker brown, will overwhelm the 2 other shades. especially on the vehicles.
Desert yellow is not that nice imo. It does not give a nice effect for me.
the light tan, gives to much of a chalky result too.
What i would maybe try one more time would be adding a 'red earth' for the carapace. if someine can give me a name of a nice candidate for that color.
the ultramar reign from a system of planets, not just 1 home planet; so the color can be incorporated with the symbol.
About devlan mud: What i noticed about it is that after application you best seal it of asap, or the color will keep changing further towards black. it has ruined 36 firewarriors for me TBH. The result now is a very dark figure, without much contrast, where before it gave a nice depth.
Sepia mostly derties it up, which i doubt would give a good result.
Hmm... that's not happened to me before, but if the GW washes don't work for you, try making your own out of a dark brown.
Red for the fatigues might work, but I agree that it has to be a dull red. GW used to make a Terracotta color, which I think Vallejo makes as well, under the same name. Also, I've heard Vallejo has a color called "red leather" that might suit your needs. Come to think of it, that and the "Deathwing" bone would look quite good. If you use the same dark brown color to wash both, it would tie them together further, on a subtle level.
now i dont have much to say for this topic, as i have never attempted dessert themes at all, but you guys seem to have a fair amount of good ideas.....but this you said...the bolded part, isnt loosing one man in the masses a general theme for IG...the whole massiv F*** ton of men you must wade through to beat us?
also camo being too effective seems silly, i guess id have to see it to understand where your comingfrom.
anyway im rambling, good luck if anything strikes me ill drop some ideas your way.
I painted a Desert Storm figure 54 mm using the DBU (Desert Battle Uniform) pattern. It came out pretty well. Unformtunately, I never took a picture of it before I sent it out to my Wifes Cousin.
I used Reaper Colors Unfortunately, I only recall 2 of the three colors I used in the pattern..
For the third brown, you could use Brown sand.
The way I did it was actually try to match colors to the real colors used by the US military DBU. This leaves Desert Sand as your base color, it being the lightest of the three, and covering the most surface.
Then strips of brown sand are placed in slightly wavey lines with accents of Desert Khaki over it..
Should get the same effect as
Or this one
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