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Soon i will start my first themed army for 40k. I did some good conversion (tervigon for example) but never had a themed army.
I am planning on having a Dragonish themed Terminator army (possible using SW rules) not like salamanders though. Salamanders dont really have any serpent-dragon theme other than their shoulder pad.
I am planning on covering some parts of the armor with scales. Adding some bonish looking spikes, possible have flamers, lots, and I am thinking about using a helm that has a dragon style to it.
I couldnt find one directly but, I was thinking about using the heads from fantasy Lizardmen Temple Guard.
Possible cut the top "helmet" part. Put it on a marine head to create a "half" helmet. Also possibly use some GS to give it a more rectangular thus metal look. Some heads have bottom parts too which maybe can be used to create a full closed helmet.
What do you guys think?
I am also open to any ideas anyone would have.
Nice idea, and if you get it right, your army will look fantastic. I'm not sure about the temple guard heads though, as positioning them could be rather tricky. Hww about doing something like the ultramarines honour guard helmets. They are more eagle than dragon, but it could be something to work too. Instead of feathered wings you could make them smooth, like dragons wings. Another existing modle to look at is the high elf noble that wears a dragon styled helmet. That helmet of course is a little impractical, but what I'm thinking you could do is, while working to the style of the honour guard helmets, is to add the wings (not too big mind you), and a serpentine dragon head onto the part of the helmet that covers the nose and forehead.
You might not even need a neck at all for the dragon, just a head could suffice. The other question is how to adapt this to fit terminators. Well, look at the grey knight terminators. That style of helmet would be much easier to work from, as it has less curves, and more straight lines and flat faces. To convert this helmet is farily simple, and here is a link showing you how to do it.
Once you have this head, you can then add the dragon head to it's center, and the wings to the side. You will need to curve them slightly so they don't get in the way of the rest of the armour.
This is just an idea, but do please let me know what you think of it. If you can't invisage this desig, just let me know, and I'll post a few sketches. Or carry out the conversion if I have a spare termie head knocking around
I have waited an answer for awhile, and was losing hope but i have to admit i love your idea. I am not an SM guy (have eldar and tyranids) thats why i didnt even knew a helmet like the honor guard existed.
I am not the best sketcher but i ll try to come up with ideas. I really like the wing on the side. The only thing now is to find a suitable dragonish head maybe again some heads from the lizardmens cut the most of use it for the nose only. I ll look into that
I am also planning on (or at least try) putting some dragons heads on heavy weapons. Like the ones chaos has. Open mouth, flames coming out. I might even use some chaos weapons and just modify it a little.
(after edit: I have also seen that the Night lords helmet from the CSM has some wings on them. Too bat like instead of dragon though
and it doesn't have wings but the Lizardmen Skink Chiefs helm is kind of cool too)
Last edited by ttuzun; April 2nd, 2010 at 11:09.
Not a problem , I'm glad you like my idea
I've been looking into some ideas for this a bit more, and I may have found a suitable dragon part for the head. Check this out.BRETONNIA KNIGHT HELMET D - Detailed item view - BITS AND KITS UK
It's about the right size, has some neck (though it may need some GS work), and isn't too expensive.
Heres another one. It's the same price. BRETONNIA KNIGHT HELMET F - Detailed item view - BITS AND KITS UK
I think the first one looks better for the head, but the other has a nice wing.
And you may have already looked into this, but heres a link to the honour guard.Marneus Calgar and Honour Guard | Games Workshop
In response to your other ideas, the idea of putting dragon heads on the ends of weapons sounds great. Go for it!
And you said earlier that you wanted to have some scales and stuff on your terminators? Have a look at dark elf corasair cloaks.
Last edited by ChadMS; April 2nd, 2010 at 11:58.
Wow those are some good bits. Thanks alot if i can pull this off it will certainly will be with your help
I have come up with a helmet idea where the front of the helmet (the place 2 side wings meet) become a mouth for the dragon. From the side Original eyes look like dragon eyes, and the wing starts from the back of the cheek of the dragon head. Will certainly require more GS work but i ll try to pull it off.
I feel like the dragon head on top the helmet kind of crowds the whole thing. Too much going on as it already has some openings BUT those wings, heads are awesome for details, such as shoulderpads, guns and such.
I ll try to post a draft sketch as soon as i can scan it.
I like it. Very stylish