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I've seen a lot of gorgeously painted models on here, and since all I know is to
1. Prime. Hey, let's spray on a primer and hope its not too thick.
2. Paint with drybrush (note: I don't understand any techinical terms, so I pretty much assume drybrushing is taking a drybrush, sticking it in an overpriced citadel paint pot, and going to town)
3. Fill in details.
4. Matte Varnish.
How do I make the colors look really good? Do I mix with water before hand? Do I buy a wash set? When do I use a wash set? What order do I paint things in? How do I make colors really stand out? Is using a black primer dumb?
I'm pretty much a complete novice, and anybody who can give me tips and whatnot (or even a handy guide ), will be bowed upon and worshipped as this hobby is not cheap and I'd like to not waste paint painting models that I will have to repaint.
Also, what army in warhammer fantasy is the most fun to paint?
Last edited by mcfatsauce; July 7th, 2010 at 19:33. Reason: title mispelled
I think your a bit confused... dry brushing is when you wipe most of the paint of the brush so only the tiniest bits of paint are picked up on the very edges of the model.2. Paint with drybrush (note: I don't understand any techinical terms, so I pretty much assume drybrushing is taking a drybrush, sticking it in an overpriced citadel paint pot, and going to town)
What I believe you are referring to is wet brushing, just the standard slapping paint on the model kinda thing.
You can use dry brushing to highlight the very edges of your model, or you can physically paint on a thin line of paint (called highlighting) on to the very edges, they do a similar job but dry brushing is easier to do, but harder to master. You obviously use a slightly lighter shade of paint when highlighting (you can make this just by adding white to the colour.) the bigger the different in colour the sharper the highlight, and that isn't always a good thing.
Washes and inks do the opposite job, rather than making the edges brighter, they make the recesses in the model darker, and helps to shade the model, basically just splash it on all over the model, washes can make a very poor paint job into a nice looking model in a matter of seconds, this is because to an extent it covers up mistakes and blends all the colours on a model together. colours such as blacks and browns make excellent washes and inks, you can make these by just adding larger ammounts of water into your paint, or you can buy the specific washes (that's what I do )
You should use black primer on dark models and white primer on light models... simples.
You should always look at adding water to paint, it helps the paint flow better on your brush and extends your brush life (it also makes for thinner layers of paint which will look better than a blobby globby coat straight from the pot.) ... all paints are different consistences, you might find reds and yellows need less watering down.
Hope that helps a little
Last edited by Triorchin; July 7th, 2010 at 20:27.
how much water? i tried doing 50/50 earlier and all i got was really runny paint
Loads of good tips there.
1. It's alot easier to add more paint to a surface then to get rid of it. So start carefully until you get a feel for how much paint should be on a brush.
2. Don't worry if it starts out looking bad. Takes a while to tie it all together and like anything, it'll get easier with practice.
3. When you do some drybrushing use some kitchen roll to take the excess paint off the brush and do the first brush stroke on a strong line of the model (an edge) so that if the brush does have too much paint on it - it's not the end of the world.
4. Give coats time to dry and don't rush in.
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Thanks for the tips guys!
Anyways, I bought about 20 Gors, but I'm probably just going to paint them and start an army of Dark Elves;they look pretty damn cool. They gonna be good in 8th?
Hey mcfat, i'm not the greatest painter myself, and theres plenty of guys in here that can give you better advice on the actual painting part. All i can say is keep trying and dont be afraid to experiment a little! I'm the same way as you, i've never been a painter, I can barely figure out a color wheel, let alone make some of these gorgeously painted models on LO. But keep trying and have fun with it, I've noticed over time my models are slowly getting better and better, and i'm sure with a couple of years under my belt maybe I can try some more advanced techniques. Just don't give up haha and have fun with it!
If you want fast results simply:
1.) Prime your model with a light coat (it doesn't even have to be primer, it could be paint as long as you use several mist coats.) The purpose of a "primer" is to give the brushed paint a surface to stick to.
2.) Base coat. Water your paint down just slightly and go to town on the model. Since you are new, choose only 2-3 base colors. An example would be Imperial Guard, use black as a primer and then use green for the armor, tan for the clothing, and then a skin tone color for the skin.
3.) Wash the model with a very watered down dark gray and base color mix focusing and letting the paint pool in the recesses. Using our Imperial Guard example, mix charcoal or dark gray (black is far too strong) with the tan color and add water until it is pretty thin. Take the brush and get a bit of paint on there. Dab it in the recesses and you will see the paint be pulled from the brush into the recess. A wash coats the entire model, but since it is so thin it will mostly go to the creases.
4.) Take the base color and go over the raised areas.
5.) At the most extreme of the upper portions of the model (top of a fold, tip of the nose, etc) apply a slightly lighter color than the base. Something like two parts base + a bit of light gray. This is called a highlight and it makes the model pop.
Thats it for a basic model. To recap, you have a prime, base, wash, base highlight, and bright highlight. Great results can be had from that. Once you get good at those then you can add inking, blending, and other techinques into the steps for an even better result.
I recommend you check youtube at some of the painting tutorials. Also check out my tips for new painters on my blog: Must Read Tips for Painting Warhammer Miniatures.
the best tip you are going to receive is this. Paint smooth even colors. Keep practicing until your colors are all smooth, and when these base colors are finished, they all are where they belong on the model... (not looking like a 3 year old's coloring book)
Once you have mastered this, you can start working on techniques.
In order to get to this point, you do have to be able to accomplish 2 things.. Watering paints down to the correct consistency, and priming evenly.
For priming, keep the spray nozzle 6 -8 inches away from the mini.. Spray with a sweeping motion, or if touching up on spots that were missed, use a directed, quick blast of spray paint.. Pressing on the button and releasing as soon as the paint leaves the can.
For watering down paints. Make sure that after mixed with the water, that the paint is the consistency of milk. Any thinner and you have a wash.
Getting the water/paint ratio down is key. It's tough to explain. If you water it down so much that it runs all over the model, that's too much. You want as much water as possible WITHOUT that happening. In other words, JUST thick enough to control it. If you put the paint on, and instead of a skin-tone complexion, for example, your model looks like he/she slapped house paint all over his/her/its face, your paint is too thick.
A 50/50 mix is a good start. If you find that's too thin, you can try mixing with less water, but consider that most of the time you need to do a couple of coats of stuff that thin in order to build up a good, even tone. This is a MAJOR part of getting it right. If you're doing a basic four-step process (prime, basecoat, wash, 1-2 highlights, done), you should spend the MOST time on the basecoat. I find nothing ruins a paint job faster than a bad basecoat.
The good news: Assembly-line painting is your friend, expecially with acrylic (water-based) paints. If you do 10 of them in a row, by the time you finish the 10th, you can go back to the first and find it dry enough to put on that second coat.
Drybrushing and washes have been covered above, but feel free to check out some of the other guides here for more details.
One more thing: Post pictures! If it's got light on it (DON'T use the flash. It hurts more than it helps!) and is in focus, get it hosted on photobucket or something and show us what you've done. We can offer MUCH better criticism/advice that way.