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Orks :: ork7.jpg picture by ggnorematch - Photobucket
A link to my photobucket. These are the first 40k models i've painted. How do they look? I just got into the hobby. I have a 500point combat patrol coming up for the end of january, and I plan on taking 60 ork boys painted like this. How does the paintjob look? What can I improve on? Ect? rawr rawr rawr.
Thanks for the help!
EDIT. Updated shots with wash.
Last edited by GGnoRe; December 30th, 2010 at 02:49.
I'd say you've done pretty well for your first models! They look pretty decent.
Now that you've got the basics down, I'd look in to techniques like shading, highlighting and washing. They're both fairly solid techniques to improving the look of your models.
A basic summary from what I understand is;
Shading - Using a darker tone and leaving it showing in the sunken, shadowed or recessed areas to give the impression of shadow or depth. Say you're painting green, which with Orks can happen a lot; You'd paint on a dark green first, and then your second coat (which targets raised areas, like muscle bulges and raised veins and the like) is a lighter colour. You can use colours straight out the pot, or go for a more gradual colour change by mixing colours on a palette or something.
Highlighting - The opposite of shading, you use a lighter colour to bring out the raised areas. Often highlighting only targets the very edges or tips of parts of the model, things like the ears and cheeks and the tip of the nose if you were painting a face.
Washing - Although I personally haven't used any of the GW washes I have used some of their inks in the past, which sort of worked in a similar manner. It's sometimes called the cheat's way of shading and highlighting, as it can achieve a similar result but without as much effort. However, you can also use it in conjunction with shading and highlighting, in which case it blends your layers of colour together a little more, or something like that.
I think that's enough from me. I hope it helps to some degree!
I definately agree with Deadstar, those models are pretty nice! You have a fairly neat paintjob there, steady hand As for improving, I'd say give washes a go. A little tricky at the beginning but they can work wonders, especially if you're aiming for a tabletop army not to slow to paint. And practice practice practice!
So i've got a question about washes.
My paint scheme goes something like this.
Red: Mechrite red base.
Green: knarloc green base.
Brown: calthan brown base.
Metal: Tin bitz base.
I then wash everything with devlin mud.
Then I added highlights.
Green:Goblin green highlights. Then scorpion green highlights.
Red: A first highlight of some cadmium red acrylic paint by winsor and newtown. Then a second highlight of blazing orange.
Brown: a highlight of 50/50% Calthan brown, and commando khaki. Then a second highlight of commando khaki. Then I wash the leather to kinda blend it.
Metal. A dry brushing of 50/50 boltgun/tinbitz. A highlight of chainmail. Then a highlight of fortress grey.
The teeth go. Brown>bleached bone>white>mud wash.
So I guess my question is, am I washing at the wrong times? Should I completely paint and highlight the model before I start washing?
Should I only use devlin mud? I have a baal red wash, and a thraka green wash as well.
How many washes should I do? I red somewhere on this forum that some people use hairdryers to dry their washes. So I am assuming they do multiple washes.
There's no "right" nor "wrong" time to wash, IMO. It depends on what you want to do. In my experience though I tend to wash after basecoat + at least one highlight, because as you said it kinda blend. Get a Badab Black wash though, I think it is the most useful. On my High Elves I use almost only that one, and on your models I'd go Badab instead of Devlan on skin and weaponry. The number of washes depends on what look you want to achieve.
Note, though, that I'm no great expert on washes: these are more or less guesses of mine. At any rate, experimenting will surely prove useful in understanding how washes work.
Hope this helps, if you have more questions just ask!
I would say you're on the road to building up a solid base of painting skills there mate. The models are very neat, and honestly, that is half of the battle won. The checks look lovelly and crisp. If you cant paint neatly, and do linework, the rest is just patience and practice. I'm a million miles away from being a high quality painter but the advice offered here from other forum users is solid. I would add to it with the following general ideas:
- Don't be swayed or put off by high quality work by other painters. It can be really intimidating. I've posted this about 4 times on new painters threads but its important I think.
- Learn from other painters. Go round to a mates house, or into a local hobby store and get to know some of the lads and girls painting. Reading up on tips and techniques is great, but actually seeing someone else paint is invaluable.
- Keep going, keep posting your work!
Best of luck mate
Night gathers, and now my watch begins.
You can do it after the basecoat for shading. You can do it after the higlighting to blend everything together. You can re-highlight after you wash, if you think the wash has dulled things too much. All valid approaches, and it just depends on what look you want. If you're happy with what you're doing at present, stick with it!
I think the hairdryer thing is mainly used by people who are painting a lot of stuff in a hurry - people who do commissions or are in a rush for a tournament! I've always just gone and painted another bit of the model, or gone an have a stretch or something. I suppose it works but it's not something I've ever had any use for, and besides, it's over 40 degrees celcius here today. If I want something to dry quickly I'd can just put it outside!