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I'm VERY noob to painting minis - but I have some work to show & get some critique on.
This guy was my 7th...and as a starting point, I realize (now) that I didn't realize I had flash issues under the arm on the shield side. I will fix that .
The flash/lighting is somewhat terribad...in the 2nd photo the highlighting/shading on the cloth (blue) really isn't visible...the lighting seemed to bring everything as one solid color. The first shows the style a little better.
Otherwise, I like him...but I'm sure there is advice out there so that I can improve. So, feel free...let loose
It's very difficult to give critique as i'm not sure if faults in the model are infact the camera.
As for fash one tip i learnt is to use a very light dusting of white primer on one constructed model and then wash it with sepia, it brings up all the little imperfections in the model that you can easily file off/clip away/ patch up with greenstuff, once done just paint as normal or respray it black . Now that you know where mold lines and flash (i'm used to calling it fash like we do at the steel foundry) are most likely to occur it's much easier to pick up a none primered model and give it a good going over in those areas instead of flying blind
Metalwork is very shiny-shiny! That clan-rat, is he new? Did he come here in a sealed palanquin with extra dust filters? Has he ever seen a plague priest?
Spatter him with mud! Dull the shiny-shiny! In the tunnels, the gleam will betray us! In the charge, it will pick us out for their siege engines and archers!
In all seriousness, I get this problem when using flash photography of my minis too. The bright flash erases a lot of the shadowing and brings out all the imperfections. Maybe try lighting the mini well and then taking a photo without flash?
I know, I'm way too shiny on him. I've been trying to almost show command/seniority based on how "good" the shiny is...slaves would have pure rusted/beat to crap crap...clanrats slightly better, unit command slightly better, characters getting almost "new" equipment...which leaves my unit commander as way too shiny. Although your comments made me re-think that whole idea...it would make it too easy for the enemy to pick out the top tier of command. I'll have to do some screwing around.
Overall, I'm just working on getting the IoB rats painted & onto a tabletop "quickly" (which makes me laugh, I'm probably averaging 2+ hours per clanrat at the moment, not what I would even consider to be slightly "quickly") and I guess I've been ignoring lore in favor of just getting them painted.
Any advice for dirtying them up some, outside of just washing the crap out of them with Devlin Mud or the like? I guess I'm feeling slightly caught between lore & wanting the brighter colours and such (I've already seen how "overwashing" to dirty them up just mutes the color to the point that I get unhappy. On my pure rank and file clanrats I've been sitippoling (sp?) Rodent Brown onto the blades/armour/etc to get a rusted feel to them. Or mabye I should just stfu and keep going the way I have been to get an army tabled, and worry about the nuances of the Skaven lore later.
I'll get some better pics tonight regardless
Last edited by Samalie; January 31st, 2011 at 21:08. Reason: Spelling/typos
The best way to work with skaven if you want them done quickly is a methodical approach e.g. make a list of the processes each model needs doing on it and then do step 1 on 20 rats then step 2 and so forth until you have 20 completed rats.
A good way of making metal appear like crap is to paint them first with dark flesh, then stipple in the following order using less each stage; bestial brown, vermin brown, blazing orange, boltgun metal and then highlight the edges with mithril silver.
You can use that technique on any metal surface and you don't 'technically' have to stipple it on, it looks just as good using a medium drybrush with a soft stab then drag technique (trying to get the rust as random as possible).
Although I've found a decent approach to battered metal is boltgun metal > Devlan mud > Bestial brown drybrush/stipple > Boltgun metal highlight. It's not quite as good, but it's quicker and gives a much more 'worn' rust effect (as though it has been that way for years).
Having an army and not owning a rulebook is like owning a car with no steering wheel.Originally Posted by amishcellphone
Hey Samali, great model, i remember my first model, I used PVA glue, didn't undercoat and only used single coats to paint/ dunking.
I collect undead Ogres and a wash of "devlin mud" is good, I go into the recesses and all over the model, to give it a undead look. Otherwise they are green ogres, =(.
Also what i plan to do for my Skaven (from IO is...
Step 1- spray paint black (undercoat)
Step 2 - metal, boltgun metal with devlin mud wash, then mithril highlights or as above dark flesh, then stipple,bestial brown, vermin brown, blazing orange and finally mithril highlights, to get a rusty look i highly suggest the second style, but it does destroy brushes.
Step 3 - (Whatever blue you used) and bleached bone cloth, remember to leave some cloth out on a couple of models to get some black in the mix.
Step 4 - brown/human flesh,not sure what colour
Step 5 - wash of devlin mud
Step 6 - details - teeth(bleached bone), eyes (blood red), due to the whole model having a wash of devlin mud, the teeth and eyes will stand out so take some time to do them.
This model should turn out well, should'nt take to long, good luck with your painting =D.
Thanks for the tips. Now to go back & re-do some work. Wheeeha
I'm glad your feeling enthusiastic, giving other people tips is making me more eager to get to work on my own models, i've got an Aenur the sword of twilight to finish downstairs XD
Actually, as I take a look, I really just need to do some re-doing on my unit commander. My base clanrats are much more "dingy" in their paintjobs (I used a very pale blue/grey and/or dark green for cloth and haven't really gotten into the metal-wearing rats yet (I did one), and on those I very liberally stippled vermin brown over the weaps for rust. Won't ever win an award, but I think I can get away without re-painting them for now.)
My only question remaining for now...I have one clanrat where I used Bronze instead of boltgun for the armor, and I managed to get rid of alot of the sheen with washing, but I have no idea how to give an aged look to bronze. Suggestions?