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ok so ive got this habbit where i build all my models before painting them so i can field an unpainted army right away... im sure alot of people also have this problem. i want to base coat the army(s) in batches... im concidering picking up the citadel spray gun and a 3 gallon pancake compressor for this. the problem is, ive seen a LOT of poor reviews on the citadel spray gun. well then that begs the question. will a generic $15 gravity feed industrial spray gun work just as well? ive already had a couple quarts of paint mixed up at home depot so i wont have to blow $4 per pot on paint.
with the industrial spray gun feeling like a bad option, it sounds like the other option is an airbrush. ive browsed videos online and read all kinds of forums trying to get info on what to get and how to use it. the one thing i didnt find that i NEED to know before i go buying an airbrush is: can a double action airbrush be effectively used to base-coat a batch of models?
the armies im working on are Imperial guard, tyranid and warriors of chaos. im sure an airbrush would work on larger tyranid models and IG tanks just fine, but ive got 100+ guardsmen, almost 200 nids, and a brand new WoC army to base coat. from the looks of things an airbrush wont give me the volume to effectively coat a batch of models.
if this is indeed the case, should i then just grab the citadel spray gun, or does someone know a better option. im not really worried about the cost, however if i can get a spray gun the quality of the citadel one for cheaper, thatd be great. just looking for some advice so i dont go wasting money on tools that i could waste on expanding my forces.
*edit* ive also noticed people saying that the normal citadel colours dont work well with the citadel spray gun. anyone have experience with this? how bout experience using them with an airbrush?
1: GW spray gun is decent enough when you treat it properly (ie clean decently etc etc), don't believe all the hatin' just outright.
2: For the same price you can probably find a more decent single action modeling airbrush
3: Dual action can be used for basecoating, although the more intricate mechanics need more care and cleaning and will clog up faster during long spray sessions.
4: Do NOT, I repeat: do NOT buy a compressor without an airtank and moisture trap. Any model without both of these is a waste of money.
5: On Ebay you can find decent kits with compressor, and both single- and dual action airbrushes, probably the best deal you can find.
AIRBRUSH KOMPRESSOR KOMPLETT-SET MIT 3PISTOLEN AS186-D | eBay
*Edit* normal GW paints work just fine, but you always need to thin them, but this is the same for most brands. I use Vallejo Airbrush thinner that comes in 200ml pots, great stuff. Avoid using water except to thin inks. Foundation paints are particularly handy for airbrushes as the high pigment content ensure good coverage even when heavily thinned.
wow awesome thanks. i would be all over that deal if he shipped to the US. too bad. closest thing i could find that is in this neck-of-the-woods is almost double the price. thanks for the fast reply!
i think ill just pick up that 3 gallon compressor, a moisture trap, and the citadel gun for the time being. maybe find a nice easy-to-use airbrush somewhere.
thanks for the speedy response! i couldn't be happier with the help!
No prob man, just sharing the experience. ^^
I'm no airbrush expert by any means but I have been using both a dual action airbrush and the GW gun for quite a few years now, to great joy.
The key trick to remember is work in thin layers and build up the basecoat.
Oh, and save yourself some trouble and buy an extra set of empty airbrush paint pots. You're going to want to keep your home-brew mixes.
well ive got my spraygun, my airbrush and a really nice pancake compressor that only cost me about $50, and an in-line water trap. i used to do alot of work on cars so i know a good compressor when i see one and the one i found is solid, and quiet enough to use in my apartment. now ive just got to figure out how to attack my tiny hose to it. ive ordered the badger air compressor adapter and it looks like i can just thread the quick disconnect into it. we shall see! any other advice for making this thing work as best i can?
Yeah, I had to look around as well to find a good connector, but found one easily enough.
Hmm some more tips...
-Get some hospital gloves, I usually wear just one to hold a mini, and it saves you one a lot of hand scrubbing/washing afterwards. To basecoat I usually put a bunch of models in a box and spray the front/back, but to get inot every nook and cranny of complex models, you'll have to hold them in your hand for touchups.
-Cotton swabs, the kind you clean your ears with. They fit perfectly in the paint pot connector on the GW gun for cleaning.
-Between colours, or during long sessions, clean out the gw gun by spraying water until it's coming out clear. Unlike a regular airbrush, when you hold your finger against the nozzle you'll force the spray back into the pot, but you can hold your finger close-but-not-touching to direct some water back into the nozzle for cleaning. Also, cotton swabs come in handy for this.
-Once you're finished, use some airbrush cleaning product and chase that through the gun. (Vallejo has a good product for this as well).
-If possible, try to find the US equivalent of 'Klear', which is a UK brand of water-based, acrylic clear floor varnish. I always add a little bit of this to most of my mixes. It's quite thin so it also acts a bit as a thinner but the main advantage is that you give your paint some good strength and it will chip a lot less easy. It's actually also a good gloss varnish. ^^ There are whole websites out there decicated to Klear as an airbrush product, even sites with international equivalents: The Complete Future
-The Goldilocks consistency for your paint should be around that of full milk.