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basically I'm going to do the Deathwatch as part of my Marine army, and since all my tacticals are currently built, buying death-watch shoulders and prising the old ones off isn't really an option (unless of course you can suggest a way of getting the shoulder pads off without damaging the model )
So. What I want to know is how you would go about free-handing the death-watch symbol.
Fileeathwatchsymbol.jpg - Lexicanum
I think I could do the Inquisitorial I without much trouble, but it's the skull imposed on top of it that'd be a pain...
I'm also only really an amateur at free-handing too :/ so most of 'em probably wouldn't look good. Ideally I'd like to know how to get the shoulder pads off, and I hate, repeat hate, using decals. So really it's either free-hand, or pull off the shoulder pads and replace them with Deathwatch ones.
Thanks for the help.
I'm not sure if this would be any use to you?
Using Stencils to Help With Freehand
At the very least it might help you get started with your first few shoulderpads, help you build up your confidence and soon you'll be freehanding away with no trouble!
If only it were that easy, eh?
The only other thing I could suggest would be to look at whether you could get some cheap skull icons or something. As you said, the '=][=' shouldn't be too difficult to paint - then just glue a skull in the centre and you don't have to worry about freehanding it, just paint it as you usually would.
thanks for pointing towards that tutorial, I too am just starting with freehand and this seems to make it much easier!
@OP, I hope you succeed, It's a proper challenge but certainly doable, I'm curious what your results will be, please do share!
That stencil technique does look interesting.
What kind of paper should I use? Also, do I just draw it on, in pen or pencil? That tutorial says ink...
Lastly, I'm not a very good drawer, so any tips on how to draw the deathwatch symbol that small would be appreciated
EDIT: Might it be a good idea to print off the pic of the symbol, use tracing paper to draw it onto normal paper, then do what the tutorial says on the marines? Only downside I can see is that I'd have to scale down the symbol on the computer :/ and it might well take trial and error haha. Maybe it would just be easier to hack off the shoulder pads and keep my eyes open for deathwatch shoulder pads on eBay (the plastic ones from the CCS Marine pack).
Last edited by Blackadder; February 27th, 2012 at 08:54.
I think I just used something called baking paper (Not sure how well that translates to an international audience ) and a pencil when I made use of the tutorial. Using a pen doesn't strike me as a good idea, ink won't erase off your model nearly as easily!
Regarding the symbol itself - I can't quite remember if I had to resize it much or not. If I did have to, I probably just worked out roughly what size I needed the picture, then used a program where I could specify the size of the image in cm/mm/inches etc. I might even have done it in a word processor, using the ruler at the top of the page to get an approximation.
So yeah, if you can find a symbol that works, and can resize it and trace it, the tutorial may work. Otherwise, it might have to be e-bay!
When I freehand my banners I usually just use a mechanical pencil with a reference nearby. Usually I do a lot of erasing, and it may help that I'm a decent artist, but I find if you start with simple shapes and extrapolate out you can get it right. For example, I'd draw a circle about the right size for the circular part of the skull, then make the crossed bones and the rest of the background shapes. Once I'm satisfied the proportions are right I would add a few details like the jaw and the eyes. Then I paint in the basic colours and then work from there. In your case it may seem difficult because it's so small, but it's actually easier when it's smaller because you don't have to go very deep into details. Remember, you can always paint over a part and start again.
The most important thing to getting it to pop is to ensure there are black or dark outlines around the basic shapes so that even though it's small and not detailed you can still decipher what the shapes are. I put a picture below of my freehand on a banner. I know it's fantasy, but it's similar material with the bones and dark colours. It may not be very detailed but because the outlines are exaggerated a bit you can still make out what the intent is. When it comes to replication, I think it's best to try to stick to simple shapes first and do the detailing all at once so you get the hang of it.
Hope this helps,
Honey badger don't care.
here's a tutorial on doing pretty much same thing but with skulls to put on weapons and armor. (its towards the bottom)
http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...oc-army-2.html (Vebjørn of Bjornlings 1250pt WOC army)
I know this isn't free handing like you ask but I figure I'll give you another option you may not of consider.
best of luck with your project.
If you wedge the knife in from the bottom up, or pry away from the chest and top of the shoulder, you can usually work a shoulderpad loose without much difficulty. I know that I had to "recover" a few shoulderpads for my Exorcists, and that was my method.
As for freehanding, that's going to be a tough one. I did about 100+ of the Black Dragon symbol on my marines, and it was painful. If you're intent on freehanding in the DW logo, I'd paint on the =][= and then break that death's-head into it's component shapes. So a circle for the top of the skull, and the 'X' for the bones, with rounds on the ends of them. Then grab a Micron pen once the glue is dry, and start outlining the teeth/jaw, and splitting the skull and bones away from the =][=.
Typically, skull logos will have the circular top, squared off teeth/jaw, and the nose and eyes. You can go about the brow ridge two ways - either draw "eyebrows" above the eyesockets and connect them in the middle, or draw two ) ( shapes on the front of the skull.