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    Hello. I a noob Warhammer player, and just bought a librarian. I used black primer, and it looks ugly! Then I tried some White Primer and i was like.. Holy Crap! The colors are more vibrant (even black) is this just me, a fluke(both OSH spray primers), or real?

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    Originally posted by BurnDaHalflings@Dec 9 2004, 166
    Hello. I a noob Warhammer player, and just bought a librarian. I used black primer, and it looks ugly&#33; Then I tried some White Primer and i was like.. Holy Crap&#33; The colors are more vibrant (even black) is this just me, a fluke(both OSH spray primers), or real?
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    Think of priming this way, what do you want your outcome to be.

    Bright colors use BRIGHT primers. (Yellow, Red, White, etc.)
    Dark colors use DARK primers. (Black, Brown, Dark Green, etc.)

    Don&#39;t cross them unless you want a dull in between...
    Example: Black primer with red top coat will get you a hard to completly cover, ending up with dingy red. But a white primer will get you a brilliant red. So on and so forth...
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    Dark Trainer put it best, but with enough coats it doesn&#39;t matter what base color you use. My Necrons are white and gold (gold body, white "ceramic" bits, shoulders/hips/destroyer bodies), and I base them in black. Since Destroyer bodies are 2 parts, the shell and the undercarraige basically, I usually prime the shell part white, and then paint white over it. But for the regular troops, I have to paint the white over the black base coat. Comapring the two, they look the same, the white painted over white as opposed to the white painted over black. The biggest difference is the number of coats needed to get a smooth effect.
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    Kay. I am doing a SM army with black, and i think a bit of Gore Red. I was painting my librarian, but the primer didn&#39;t coat him. On his backpack, arm & gun, i tried white primer, and they look so much better. I don&#39;t know why, but white primer seems the best for my army. It makes black look better, especially for noob painters. I can&#39;t paint for beans, and did a crap job on my Sarus Lord I bought when i was obsessed with FB before 40k
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    ok , so bright colours look better with white undercoat and dark colours look better with black undercoat .
    thats true alright , but look at it like this . every time you miss something when your painting on white undercoat you can see this bright white spot ( and these spots can be big depending were it is ) and it looks horible for example you painting a marine in the blood angel scheme , you miss an area behind the backpack or depresion in the armour , this will show up white and can be seen from miles away but if you undercoated it black these area&#39;s and depresions would look like they were painted black for a reason ( shadow ) , so in my opinion black undercoat is alot easier to work with , it just takes a few coats though .
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    Well, black is better if you&#39;re sloppy and white if you know what you&#39;re doing :)
    Personally I use white usually, but I&#39;m not afraid to experiement. My Adeptus Mechanicus are primed with boltgun metal spray (old can from UK) but it&#39;s so dark it looks like a black/boltgun mix. That way I get a pretty unique look and as everyone knows (right?) AM are red and grey with various metal and fleshy bits so there are both light and dark colours to paint.

    When I undercoat white I paint a medium colour and shade/highlight it, with a dark undercoat you have to work your way up from dark to light. It&#39;s a different technique but it works just as well.
    I still prefer white though.
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    Originally posted by mojo jojo@Dec 9 2004, 10:32
    every time you miss something when your painting on white undercoat you can see this bright white spot ( and these spots can be big depending were it is ) and it looks horible
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    What about a bright model with an UGLY black spot. Both are just as unforgiving. Find a primer that comes closest to the actual color for best results (but most of us can&#39;t afford all the primers...) :glare:
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    Black is better, IMO. I always work from darkest to lightest color shades, and as it has been said, with enough thin coats it does matter little what color you prime with. But with a black priming, it helps a lot on blacklining or when your primary color/ one of your primary colours is black.

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    general that i use (this doesnt include inks and washes) for Figures and military modelling. Always do the lightest (base) colour first as dark covers light better than light covers dark. If you do a dark undercoat but want a yellow patch/panel etc then paint that white befire yellow.

    On a side note i used to do all my Blood Angels vehicles white then red. Now i spray em black and dry brush blood red with a very big brush. At first i wasnt too happy but now i really like the darker feel it gives. And further highlighting is easy, just add a spot of orange to the red the drybrush again.

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