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I have just gotten into WH40k after a 6 year absence. I was all excited at getting some new miniatures to start my army with. Then BAM!! I discovered that gluing plastic to metal is a bigger pain than i imagined. I can get the backpacks on, but it is the arms that are giving me trouble, any ideas?
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pin them. if you don't know what that is, here's a breif(and i mean breif) explanation: drill hole with pin vice, super/crazy glue pin(short peice of wire) in hole, then repeat on other part.
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Pinninng is a valuable technique, but not necessary for such a small part as a SM arm, unless he's holding a really big metal gun.
If you're using superglue, you are most likely using too much. Clean both pieces. Sand/file the surfaces so they fit as flush as possible. Put one small drop of superglue on one piece. Press and hold for a few seconds. Make sure you didn't buy the 'slow cure' superglue.
If you're not using superglue, change glue and follow above.
ive stopped using liquid superglue as its a pain in the arse when it gets attached to things that you dont want it to (like fingers) ive been using loctite superglue gel instead for about a year now and it works a lot better and drys quicker than most other superglues that ive used, as for not pinning srooy wolf raider have to disagree with you there i always pin when attaching plastic to metal it is so much safer especially when transiting though it is made a lot easier for be by my dremmel, so if you have access to one or a powerdrill for that matter id do it, if not then pining wont be a very usefull technique for you cause of the density of the white metal, lead was so much easier so what if it could poison you you had to be EATING THE DAMN THING for that to happen (enough of the ranting now) hope this helped
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I agree with Decado pinning is a very important step that shouldn't be overlooked. It doesn't take very long to do and what it does is insures that the part wont come off. Even if it is all plastic and doesn't weigh very much it won't be coming off.
I am tired of crappy super glue myself and plan on using the gel as well. The pin also helps hold it in place for positioning.
Hope this helps.
What I do is apply a very small amount of glue. Like with plastic cement you only need a little drop for the glue to do its thing. I balance the figure on its side against the lid of my bits box.
Basically, I place it so the lid of the box acts as a sort of support, holding the arm in position while the glue dries. You just need to be careful you don't knock the lid or say, glue any of the parts to it.
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Can you get what you need to pinning in hobbystores?Originally posted by Tomato-99@Dec 24 2004, 00:14
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You should be able to find everything you need at a hobby store. There are really only 2 things to get - at least a vice drill (I personally use a dremel with a flex shaft but that costs quite a bit more), and some type of small rigid wire (I use 1/16 brass wire that I got from a local hobby/model train store).
If you end up using paper clips make sure they are the stronger metal types and not the ones easily bent.
While I am an avid supporter of pinning joints when needed, it is simply not necessary for Space Marine arms. One small drop of superglue, liquid or gel, will hold the arm perfectly and be quite strong.
While there is nothing wrong with pinning all your space marine arms, the added work load is huge and just not worth it. I don't think those tiny joints will be that much stronger, enough to validate all that work. Medium army, about 40 - 60 marines, x2 for arm joints, that's a heck of a lot of pinning.
If they are all plastic I would simply use plastic cement and bond them but other wise pinning is still a good idea - unless you don't mind if the arms break off.
My philosophy is - if you are going to take the time cleaning the mold lines, drilling out the guns, basing and painting the model you may as well make sure you do everything you can to ensure that it isn't going to come apart.
That's my $.02