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i am horrible...ask a member on here called tophatcat, he will tell you. I mean i suck so bad. i need some major help oin this one. My handwriting looks like someone gave a pen to a fetus and told it to draw a picture of a pony. i need some advice on how not to suck. :ph34r: ninja.
Space Wolves: 3000+pts.
dark elves: work in progress
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Well, I have never seen myself as a "good" painter, but I do feel that I am able to get nice looking models for fielding in games.Originally posted by IC_Wiener@Jan 14 2005, 23:26
i am horrible...ask a member on here called tophatcat, he will tell you. I mean i suck so bad. i need some major help oin this one. My handwriting looks like someone gave a pen to a fetus and told it to draw a picture of a pony. i need some advice on how not to suck. :ph34r: ninja.[snapback]303172[/snapback]
Basically, take your time with your units, if you rush thats when things will go wrong. Also, every tutorial seems to go along the lines of colour 1 -> colour 2 -> colour 3. Well, that liniar menthod has never worked for me, heres how I paint...
2) Base colour (watered down)
(For the next stages I dont worry about being neat, if i over lap the base colour its touched up later)
3) Armour details (black in joints etc)
4) Other Details (chains, symbols etc...)
5) Touch up base (This is where you clean up any overlaps from the details. Again, thje paint should be watered down, this can take a few coats to get looking sold but overall 3 thin coats are better than 1 thick one)
6) Touch Up Detail (Heres where I will go back and pick out details I missed, This is where I take the longest time making sure that each detail is done to reasonable standard. Concentrate on one detail at a time, finish that, move ionto the next.)
7) Ink (Same colour as base, i.e. Red Armour, Red Ink)
Shading Ink (Darker colour than base to pick out detail, i.e. For Red I use Flesh Ink)
Et Voila, paint the base green and flock.
Not sure how this will work on Tau, but it works well on SM's and IG to get Tourny quality models.
I've been in the Games Workshop hobby for I'd say close to 11 years. At the beginning, I sucked at painting too. I used to look at the pretty pictures in White Dwarf magazine, and compare that to the messed up models I used to paint. It was incredibly frustrating since I thought the Games Workshop models were awesome and it seemed as if everyone else could paint well except me.
After several years of painting hundreds of miniatures, I consider myself pretty darn good at painting, and my best advice to you is that the most essential ingredient to good painting is SELF-CONFIDENCE (but not over-confidence). You can only build this up through practice. You can expect that your first few miniatures will suck. Period. Get over it, and learn from your mistakes.
A few tips I can provide are the following:
1) The easiest priming color to use is black. It gives you instant shading for your base color (if you don't paint cracks/crevices). It's important to have a solid primer ... not too thick to obscure detail/not too thin that you can easily see through it. Using white as a primer is more difficult I find.
2) Pick a color scheme for your unit/army and STICK WITH IT. It will make your army look cohesive and pretty good on the table, irrespective of the quality of individual models. Your color scheme should consist of 3 or 4 colors max. The more colors you use, the more you risk making your army look like a circus. Each color you paint on the model should be applied as a solid and even coat, even if this means painting over the same area multiple times before moving on.
3) The golden rule in painting is too keep your colors separate. Make sure each color on the model is dry before attempting to paint other areas of the same model. This avoids making a mess, adjacent colors mixing and other horrible effects.
4) Work in small groups of models (5-10 man-sized models). This will also help you to keep a cohesive color scheme.
5) Avoid starting to paint a unit, then starting a different one before the first is complete. I can assure you that this will result in an army of partially painted models which looks pretty crap on the battlefield. In painting an army, remember that rank-and-file troops don't have to be perfect. Concentrate on special characters and just make rank-and-file look neat and cohesive.
6) Read up on the technique of 'drybrushing.' This is amazingly effective and quick IF PERFORMED CORRECTLY.
Hope this helps.
The best way to improve your painting is to simply find someone who is good, and have them teach you. Talking about painting on the internet is one thing, but nothing beats someone showing you the ropes in real life.
This is very true. But not many people have the commodity of someone showing them. I think GW staff are great people but they're usually too busy trying to sell something to completely devote their efforts to helping newbees master painting.
Your best bet is a good, patient friend who's good at painting. But, as I said already, not everyone has this commodity.
I dunno if your GW shops do this, but mine will let people come in anytime to use the painting table. If it's busy in there they won't stick around for a long time but they will keep checking up on you and giving suggestions. Saturdays are there "designated paint-class days" so if someone comes in there is always a staff person at the table.
Most GW's will do that, if you can get in during the week in the middle of the day when most people are at school or working the staff members are usually very bored and will give their full attention to you. It is very hard on a saturday or games night when the shop is full and busy to get help.This may not effect your painting skills, everyone I know finds my writing completely unreadable and I even have trouble reading it sometimes yet while I'm not a great painter I can paint neatly. Start with fairly easy things that have large flat or slightly curved areas and not a lot of detail. Marines are fairly good for this, and don't worry about painting the eagles on the chest for them. It still looks ok with them not painted a different colour.My handwriting looks like someone gave a pen to a fetus and told it to draw a picture of a pony
Skeletons are also good, they are extremely easy to paint. It just requires a lot of practice and getting the different techniques of painting correct, a bit of a dry brush and an ink is all some models need to look good.
Don't try and compare your models to those in White Dwarf or Golden Demon winners, you cant reach this level instantly. Also it really knocks your confidence, that is a key thing with painting. I always used to drybrush but as i got more confidence i find myself willing to try highlighting in layers and my models get progressively better.
I hope you dont mind me saying but what you said about your handwriting is one of the funniest lines i have ever read.
Well, I have to say that some people have it tough for painting. My first GW miniature I painted was Gandalf for LOTR. It sucked pretty badly. Then I tried some high-elves. They sucked because I didn't have a primer and I tried painting them with a white undercoat. Then I tried Gandalf on horseback. It sucked too. After a few months, though, I got the hang of it.
I first started painting really well when I got the Heroes of Helms Deep boxed set. I learned to take my time, and I spent like four days on Legolas and Haldir alone.
Then I learned how to paint quick and efficiently on my troops, whilst still painting with good detail.
By the time I started 40k, I was getting really good. Now I undercoat everything except vehicles Chaos Black. Even my Deathwing terminators are sprayed black, though they are mostly bone white.
For vehicles, I don't use a primer, I just use Dark Angels Green spray. It works perfectly fine.
Everyone who sees my army says I just have a talent for painting, even people who have been playing for ten years more than me.
Look at my personal photo (not my avatar). That's how I paint Terminators.
In terms of my army, I spend a lot more time on my HQ than my troops. My new Master of the Deathwing looks even better than my personal photo master, and I only spent about an hour on it (Sprayed black, of course).
For those with hands not as steady as those of people like me, I can only suggest you practice a lot, and practice on LOTR models, because they're so cheap.
And use black primer.
I am this member and yes you do suck. I think the solution is that you rush the paint job most of the time. Escpecially(sp) on your space wolves. I mean they were space wolves grey base coat with some random colors splotched on. You did better with your Tau though. A LOT better. You actually stayed on a certain area that was to be painted. Next time we are chillin' in the same house Ill show you some stuff I just picked up to make your stuff look cooler.